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Low Carb = no energy!

Top Cat

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What am I doing wrong? !!!!!

I'm Type 1 / LADA (they haven't decided yet!) and I decided to try low carb after reading about it on here. I make my own variation on a quiche (no pastry of course) which I eat tons of with coleslaw, salad or just on its own and it doesn't affect my BS at all. However, I am so tired when I get in from work I'm falling asleep! I have started eating carbs again at tea time and then feel fine so it must be the fact that I'm having no carbs all day that's making me feel like I did before diagnosis!!! Any tips from all you low carbers as to how I can get some energy back!!!

Thanx :D
 
Hi Top Cat,

Things like coleslaw and salad can be quite filling, but they don't actually contain very many calories. Eggs, cheese, avocados, meat, fish and nuts tend to be the usual calorific low-carber favorites. You'll need calories from somewhere, or your body will start to crave the 'instant hit'
of carbohydrate.

All the best,
timo.
 
How long did you try the low-carb for?
your body needs time to adjust to using other fuels.
 
Hi TC,

I had been a couch potato for some time. I have been lo-carbing since diagnosis at the end of April. I aim for around the 50g mark. My exercise regime now consists of daily :-
36 sit ups and 60 bench presses with 2 x 12kg dumbells (every day)
Then a combination of
1. A 6 mile cycle run
2. A 1 hour brisk walk OR
3. 60 minutes work out in the garage using the rower, runner and cross trainer which I bought on the cheap on ebay.(About £250 the lot).
On a good day I will do more than 1 of these 3 or rarely all 3.
I was 17 stone 5 pounds 2 months ago and am now 15 stone 1 pound.
Just making the point that lo-carb = low energy doesnt match my experiences and to be honest at 53, I havent had as much get up and go for years!!.

Good luck with your endeavours to find your best regime (Which is what we are all striving for)

Steve.
 
Are you getting enough protein and fats?

If your body has been used to getting its energy from carbs then it obviously needs to get them from somewhere else. You can't take the carbs away and not replace them with another fuel source. That's where I went wrong for years.

In upping my fat intake along with the low-carb regime I am seeing great changes going on and I do have a bit more energy. I am hoping that will increase as time goes on.

I now use plenty of butter, coconut oil, some olive oil, and I take cod liver oil and flaxseed oil supplements too. Perhaps all these years my body has been crying out for the vitamins (A & D) and essential fatty acids.
 
AliB said:
Are you getting enough protein and fats?

If your body has been used to getting its energy from carbs then it obviously needs to get them from somewhere else. You can't take the carbs away and not replace them with another fuel source. That's where I went wrong for years.

In upping my fat intake along with the low-carb regime I am seeing great changes going on and I do have a bit more energy. I am hoping that will increase as time goes on.

I now use plenty of butter, coconut oil, some olive oil, and I take cod liver oil and flaxseed oil supplements too. Perhaps all these years my body has been crying out for the vitamins (A & D) and essential fatty acids.

How deficient is the normal UK diet of essential fats and vitamins?
 
I haven't a clue - not sure if there is even any way to gauge that. I just Googled 'UK vitamin deficiency' - I don't know if this helps - http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage. ... -200933361

I suspect that that is true of not just vitamin D too. Vitamin D deficiency does seem to be a problem for many people - but then no one ever bothers to test for it unless the deficiency symptoms were really bad and blatantly obvious so how would one know?

Even if one had obvious symptoms they can often be construed as something else or not be tied in to a specific deficiency. In the Daily Mail on Tuesday was a report about a woman who developed neurological problems. The Medical Profession could not find a reason and it was only through her own endeavours (and the internet) she discovered that she may have Pernicious Anaemia. Although her blood tests were 'normal' her Doctor decided to try her with a B12 injection and within a few hours she started to recover. Turns out that normal blood tests quite often don't pick it up.

My Doctor acknowledged to me that sometimes people can have what they term as 'sub-clinical' deficiencies - in other words, you are deficient but it does not show on tests. It may be evident in the blood but not necessarily getting into the cells for some reason.

Doctors just aren't looking for deficiencies. As so many have some sort of gut damage (even when they don't know it) that can cause malabsorption issues too.

I understand that some Diabetics can present with vitamin A deficiencies too because they lack the ability to convert Beta-carotene, for instance.

Personally I would think that the UK diet would be pretty devoid of particularly the fat-soluble vitamins and essential fatty acids, simply because low-fat is so highly promoted by the Establishment. Not only that but the high-carb and particularly high-sugar aspects of the Western diet actually depletes the body of essential vitamins and minerals.

If the food was good and full of nutrition (which most of it isn't) and the sun was healthy (and not likely to damage us from the depletion of the ozone layer) and the water was pure, clean and life-giving (instead of being polluted and full of chemical derivatives) then we might stand some chance of getting a decent level of nutrition from our environment, but at current levels that ain't happening, so unfortunately deficiencies are more likely to be the norm rather than the exception.

I remember reading an article where a couple who grow organic food in Pembroke had some of their vegetables compared nutritionally to the same type of vegetables from a supermarket. Virtually all of it contained much higher levels of nutrition and some of their veg had as much as 90% more!

Supplements are not always the answer - many of those are artificially derived and may not be of a form that the body can either use very well, or even at all. Sometimes they make for very expensive urine!

Sorry to sound like a doom-mongerer, but unfortunately that's the way it is in this wonderful modern technically advanced age we 'intelligent' humans live in. We can get a man to the moon but can we grow or rear good food that is not devoid of nutrition, drenched, or adulterated with chemicals or had other obnoxious stuff done to it?

No, these days they give us what people of 100 years or more ago would have considered normal everyday good nutritious food, slap an 'Organic' label on it and charge us three times the price. The rest is probably not even fit for the compost heap. How kind.
 
As an ex-Brit who has lived in Australia for 39 years one would think that I get plenty of Vit D through the sun. I don't sunbathe as I burn too easily. I used to work indoors 6 days a week. Developed T2 18 months ago and in that time I had a malignant melanoma picked up and removed (it was just a freckle on my shouder it seemed to me that I had never noticed as it was towards my back) and the only notable thing in my blood tests was that I was deficeint in Vit D.
This is common in over 55's, diabetics and melanomas I believe. Tick all three for me! I take Vit D drops now in my list of supplements but no longer need prescribed medication for diabetes, BP or cholesterol thanks to living a low carb way of life for ever (WOLFE). Officially I have no signs of Diabetes according to my GP and endo. HBA1c at last test was 5.0.
 
Thanks for all this lot!! Glad I asked! So... I need to increase the fat in my diet - I DAREN'T!! I'm not overweight but my cholesterol last time was 5.5. I've been reading on the low carb forum that you can eat cream, butter etc etc and thought yipee but I'm just too scared to do it now! I eat LOADS of cheese and eggs but not much fish, nuts or other proteins.

How long does it take for your body to adjust to low carbing? I'm on roughly 50-70g a day (unless it's weekend - then I'm baaaaadddddd!!)

As for exercise - well I can't get that right either - got a rower but a bit scared of adjusting my insulin dose at the minute so I can exercise as I've only just got my BS levels under control after being ill (well, wasn't ill really, just a cold but it's taken a month to get them back under control).

Vitamin D hmmmmm I wish I could overdose on that but there's a permanent rain cloud over the little village where I live :lol:
 
Hi TopCat, is there a reason why you don't each much in the way of fish or other protein - medical reasons or just don't like them? What sort of protein do you eat each day and how much?

Reduced carbing is an extremely healthy way of eating PROVIDING it is balanced i.e. just reducing carbs isn't enough unfortunately. Similarly, most people who follow a reduced carb diet find that their lipid profile improves considerably - but again, this is dependant on the diet being balanced with sufficient protein to fuel the body.
 
Hi Mrs P

In an average day the protein I eat would be lots of cheese (cooked and uncooked), chicken or other meat with my dinner and occasionally nuts or peanut butter. I have fish about once a week but have to fancy it so can't be eating it every day!

Any suggestions would be much appreciated! I haven't really thought about balancing my diet - have just reduced carbs - no other changes really apart from the obvious that I don't eat chocolate, cake etc

Typical day's food is:

Breakfast - nothing - maybe a slice of toast occasionally
Lunch - quiche (no pastry), salad & coleslaw or cheese/ham sandwich (2 small slices wholemeal bread)
Dinner - chicken breast with veg / bacon, egg, saus /small portion pasta with sauce / cold meat & salad
Supper - cheese, pickled onions, ham, olives
& red wine!!!!
 
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