Hi azure.I agree with @noblehead that it sounds like you're making a fairly big change with your insulin.
You say you've put on weight being on insulin - can I ask what your BMI is? Or your weight/height if that's easier.
How are your blood sugars during the day?
Although in theory you can eat what you want and cover it with the appropriate insulin dose, if you overeat then you'd put on weight like anyone else. Would you be happy sharing what you'd eat for a normal day's meals?
Have you spoken to your DSN about what you've done to your insulin doses? It's always best to get advice when making any changes, especially if you've only been on insulin a short time.
Insulin in and of itself doesn't make you fat. You've mentioned Metformin. Do you have insulin resistance?
Hi and welcome. Whoever told you that you can eat what you want when on insulin is an idiot. Yes, you can but you will gain weight as the insulin will convert any excess carbs to stored fat. Lantus is a very popular Basal and Apidra less common as a Bolus but should be fine. Are you carb-counting the Bolus to match the meal-time carbs? Have you adjusted the Basal to get it in balance. I would hope if you go back to your earlier low-carb life-style your excess weight will fade and you will need less insulin. If you carb-count with the Basal/Bolus and get the balance right, hypos should not be very common.
23kg not 33Hi azure.
I'm 5.7 in height
And currently 64kg I was 58kg. I wouldn't say I over eat but I have gone back to eating carbs like bread rice pasta potatoes chips etc that I gave up for a long time... I haven't told my dn as yet but I see her and the endocrinologist 10th August... I will fill them in. I was type 2 for nearly 2 years an lost 33 kg ate low carb an hba1c dropped from 56 to 36. Then my bs readings for 4 months were between 18 an HI....on my testing kit. They put me on lantus 10 units... hba1c came in at 78 and I was sick and they did a c.peptide and a gad and said I'm type 1... I think I am a little in denile actually as type 2 I had it sussed.... I was a coke add8ct for 30 years and I cut this out of my life type 2.... now I'm back on it I seem to crave it and choclate and sweets which I never ever ate before... only coke was my sweet tooth. My bs are 18 to 28 at mo an I'm OK with that for now as I'm use to the symptoms attached with that as apposed the bang I get low bs.... it's so sudden no warning and it's terrifying.
Hi Tim@nessa1970 I'm afraid that you've been fed rather an uninformed set of information. Even as a T1 on insulin, you can't eat anything you like. Specifically, cakes, coke and sweets all cause rapid rises in glucose levels that are damaging, and typically, rapid falls as the insulin kicks in. And as you've discovered, they tend to drive weight gains to the combination with insulin.
Whilst you had T2 sussed on low carb, I'd suggest that if you were to revert to that way of eating as a T1, you'd find that actually, you'd do pretty well there too. There are no issues with eating low carb as a t1 and many of us do it. It makes managing everything quite a lot easier.
The other benefit of lower carb eating is that you need less insulin and this means you don't get sudden spikes and drops. You already know that running at 18-28 is seriously damaging for you, and only you can make a decision, but in your shoes, I think I'd be looking at going back to Low Carb eating.
I find it easier to lose weight low carb than normal, so you may find going earlier will help more!Hi Tim
Yes I am going to do low carb again as soon as I'm back to 60kg. My dn said you can eat what you like cause you can bolus but not all the time as in junk constantly... I do find tho when you hypo cause you need sugar I find it sort of sets me off on a sugary day full stop really.... it's quite frustrating I guess I just have to be stronger.... thank you
I'll start tomorrow but I won't change my basal from 4 units yet an I'll continue with no bolus for a few days anyway just to see how 30grams of low carb will go on only 4 units basal... I suspect I'll have to raise it to 6 in a few days but while I'm on 4 I may as well go up slowly and see what suits me best. I'd definitely be happier as type 1 if I didn't have to have bolus unless it was a treat cake etc and lantus at 6 to 8 at most... I feel I wouldn't put on weight...I find it easier to lose weight low carb than normal, so you may find going earlier will help more!
Hi Tim
Yes I am going to do low carb again as soon as I'm back to 60kg. My dn said you can eat what you like cause you can bolus but not all the time as in junk constantly... I do find tho when you hypo cause you need sugar I find it sort of sets me off on a sugary day full stop really.... it's quite frustrating I guess I just have to be stronger.... thank you
I've ordered that book from the library I think you may have mentioned it in another thread of mine. It must be popular as its still out... I will ask the endocrinologist on the 10th re info on carb counting too. How do you mean "when" to bolus and "how" much? I was on 3 apidra each meal time... and the saying was.... jab an eat. Don't eat don't jab. Thank you for your advice. I will research myself also re carb counting and look at your link.@nessa1970 Check out this thread. It's one of a number here about the amount of carbs Type 1s eat:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/t1s-how-many-carbs-do-you-have-a-day-typically.104957/
Just to give you an idea
I noticed most people have between 80g and 150g.I've ordered that book from the library I think you may have mentioned it in another thread of mine. It must be popular as its still out... I will ask the endocrinologist on the 10th re info on carb counting too. How do you mean "when" to bolus and "how" much? I was on 3 apidra each meal time... and the saying was.... jab an eat. Don't eat don't jab. Thank you for your advice. I will research myself also re carb counting and look at your link.
I've ordered that book from the library I think you may have mentioned it in another thread of mine. It must be popular as its still out... I will ask the endocrinologist on the 10th re info on carb counting too. How do you mean "when" to bolus and "how" much? I was on 3 apidra each meal time... and the saying was.... jab an eat. Don't eat don't jab. Thank you for your advice. I will research myself also re carb counting and look at your link.
I noticed most people have between 80g and 150g.
That seems alot. I have always done 20-50g. Nothing to do with diabetes I use to do Atkins years ago and have stuck to that on and off. Tho I don't really count veges as there healthy.... I do include fruit tho... an that's from an Atkins carb book with amounts in it. I add them up. I wouldn't really have a clue as to how you add it up say you ate a pancake an say that was 20g how you would equal that into a unit...... but I'll sure be asking at my endocro app next week and will look on net too. Is there a carb count ap you can download for a diabetic?
Yes that was a great example. I cook for 4 tho so if I make say lasagna I would have to guess as to my slice of it what the carb content would be. Or do I weigh it all and then divide by 4? I think I'll ask to see a dietitian as well just so I'm on the right track. Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it. It's alot to learn.People use Carbs and Cals, I believe. I just use my 20+ years of carb counting or Collins Gem Carb Counting book to check foods I don't eat that often. Mainly, it becomes second nature eg I usually have the same cereal for breakfast so don't have to count carbs each time, I just know that a certain weight of that cereal means I need X amount of insulin. For evening meals, we tend to have the same 20 or 30 meals spread over the weeks, so, again, I weigh things like pasta to make sure I'm having the same amount and know how much insulin I need for that meal. I even write carb counts by my favourite recipes.
Everyone has an insulin to carb ratio. This is the amount of insulin you need for a certain amount of carbs. It varies per person, and it can be different for different meals eg for breakfast I have approx 45g carbs and need more insulin for those carbs then than I would if I had 45g carbs for my evening meal. Your DSN should help you estimate this. So if, just as an example, your DSN told you you had an insulin to carb ratio of 1 to 10g, that'd mean you'd need 1 unit of insulin for every 10g of carbs you ate. So, in your example, your pancake with 20g carbs would need 2 units of insulin
I stress that's just an example. Your DSN will help with your own personal ratio(s)
Does that help and make sense? It's not as complicated as I probably made it sound : D
Yes that was a great example. I cook for 4 tho so if I make say lasagna I would have to guess as to my slice of it what the carb content would be. Or do I weigh it all and then divide by 4? I think I'll ask to see a dietitian as well just so I'm on the right track. Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it. It's alot to learn.
Oh okay. Great thanks alot. Yes I'm sure I'll be a whizz in a year or so. For now I'm taking notes.. thank you very much for all the information. Much appreciated...For lasagne, I write the carbs on the recipe in my book, ingredient by ingredient, then I work out what portion I'm going to have and work out the carbs for that by dividing the total. I then write that info on my recipe so I know for future reference eg I woukd write something like 1/6 == 35g carbs.
Yes, it's a lot to learn, but I promise it gets easier
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