hi thank you for the reply ....no ive had no luck with the medications at all ...ive tried the high fat low carb diet which caused a bad stomach again as i have an hernia im trying to balance bothy out at the moment with probs about 1380 cals a day with no more than 130 carbs a day i have had porrige this morning only a samll amount my levels where 11.5 after 2 hours :-( . Ive tried ryvita with cheese and ham for lunch it was ok i was still getting readings of over 8 after that i have tried bread (milk roll) as not as many carbs in 2 hours after it was 7 last week this week was 10 it just seems as the weeks are going on the readings are getting worse ive been off meds since b4 xmas they where fine over xmas as i couldnt eat that much as anything i did eat was causing unbearable stomach pain