I think you will find the improvement was because of the weight loss, not specific diet and may be temporary. It's probably more keto rather than just low carb that causes more significant rises in LDL. The large populations I meant we can't come to any conclusions about whether saturated fat raises cholesterol based on individual cases, we have to look at large numbers to see trends as there are other factors that influence results like weight loss.
I guess it's more keto and carnivore rather than just low carb, my own LDL hasn't gone up either but I try to restrict saturated fat. LDL is well known to rise on a keto and especially carnivore diet. The LMHR thing is not accepted by all, see this:
Yes, OK, the weight loss...but I had tried so very many diet and exercise plans before and never lost any weight. LCHF was amazing for me, I consumed more calories and lost weight and lowered cholesterol. So yes you may say the weight loss caused the lower cholesterol, but LCHF was the only diet to help me lose weight, therefore I consider it also lowered cholesterol, which got slightly lower year after year, reaching a TC level of 4.8 in November last year.
I am low carb myself so certainly not against it, it's what keeps my blood sugar in range with no meds. I do have stubborn slightly raised cholesterol and don't want to take statins because almost all raise blood sugar and that's the last thing I need! By the way the non HDL cholesterol is the most useful number on your cholesterol results. Anyway this is getting massively off topic as I was asking about the mastering diabetes diet.
Have you clicked my link in this post and read my numbers on lipids? https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/th...es-approach-i-dont-get-it.208808/post-2755941
ApoB yes, used much more in America but the NHS don't do it. The non HDL cholesterol on a standard lipid panel has been shown to correlate quite well with ApoB, better than total or LDL. The influence of particle size is controversial and not all accept that has much value. ApoB measures all particles, and if that is the best measure it shows all sizes, which are all atherogenic.
Ah but it is in dispute. Not just by the many low carbers and their personal experiences I see online but by some of the other experts too. I’m not going to start a back and forth of papers between us though. You’re obviously able to look them up. As you saying differing expert opinions and conflicting studies muddy the water. Little in medicine is or was solid fact, it’s accepted consensus - until it’s not and new knowledge superceeds it.
Yes they aim to account for them. They don’t always succeed. They sometime base conclusions on “assumed facts” and if those aren’t correct the whole house of cards falls. If weight loss lowers LDL and more specifically and importantly lowers risk I’ll take that and don’t really care how it works. Weight loss for me on calorie deficit low fat regimes doesn’t work and puts glucose up. On low carb everything improves, including all other lipid measures. That link to a summary appears to confirm association (not disputed as far as I’m aware) and in that snippet I can’t see how causality is proved by the analysis or in which direction.
The entire point of that paper and the massive amount of research and studies it pools was to show the causality which was not conclusively shown before. It's all there if you read it! Even in the summary:
There will always be individual variation, that is why studies must look at large populations to see trends. You see this all the time on social media - "I know someone who got cancer after the covid jab" does not show that the jab causes cancer.
I have to say @Vectian I'm on a relatively low dose of Rosuvastin 10mg. I haven't noticed any difference to my blood sugars. I know statins are known for raising your blood sugars, but I think it depends on the dosage.
