Mastering Diabetes by Cyrus Khambatta and Robby Barbaro

HSSS said:

Oh it’s late and my head is spinning now and I can’t make sense of it. I’ll come back tomorrow and see if I can work out what I’m saying or if anyone else has.

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Your thoughts make sense to me!
And they are only thoughts, not a scientific paper which needs proper proof.

HSSS said:

How else would an early LADA not yet on insulin become insulin resistant with ever decreasing amounts of said insulin if it hadn’t already happened.

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I have a feeling (but nothing very certain!) this is exactly what happened for me, although there might be many pathways of course. I might have been well on my way to T2 when the LADA hit.

HSSS said:

Though I’m sure you’d rather it wasn’t a possibility for you.

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Not too worried about it. I can manage very well on a combination of insulin and lowish carb, and while I somtimes envy my true T1 friend who can inject for things like donuts without spiking, I count my blessings in that I can use insulin for highs and occasional high carb meals where the T2's on diet or orals can only sit it out.

I'm also afraid I'm wandering very much off topic, bedtime for me as well!

Beating-My-Betes said:

B12 is borne of bacteria, not of meat. The more sanitised our wold has become, the less we are naturally exposed to it, hence why most animals are supplemented with it and why the recommendation is not just for vegans to supplement.

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You do talk nonsence without a huge industry producing B12 suppliments by processing billions of bacteria in huge vats and such where would you get your suppliments.

I however have no need of B12 supplimentation I get all the B12 I need from the diet I follow so could easily survive a long term deprivation of said suppliments can you say the same. By the way those animals got on for millenia before the advent of supplimentation just fine.

JohnEGreen said:

I however have no need of B12 supplimentation I get all the B12 I need from the diet

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Yes! The animals you eat are supplemented with b12, so you get it from your diet.

Hi all, multiple posts have been deleted again, either by us or by the ones who posted.
Can we all please stick a bit closer to the subject?

I know @HSSS has confirmed she likes different points of view on this thread (https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/th...-and-robby-barbaro.182045/page-9#post-2453900), but this doesn't mean you should feel free to endlessly discuss completely derailing stories.

It's much appreciated if everyone tries their best to keep the thread readable, thanks in advance!

Beating-My-Betes said:

Yes! The animals you eat are supplemented with b12, so you get it from your diet.

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You do not know what animals I eat or if they have been fed b12 supliments but I know non of the things included in your diet contain b12 except the suppliments you take and without them youir diet would not sustain you for the long term that is a simple fact.