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donnarob112

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Hi, I am 58 years old and post menopausal. I am battling fluctuating hormones at present and feel they affect my blood glucose readings. I am not on any meds and haven't been since 2010. I have been trying very hard to low carb and walk regularly but feel it's only a matter of time before I'm put on Metformin. When I was initially diagnosed I was on Metformin x 2 a day but my bg plummeted so low as I was advised to come off it.

Any ladies out there who suffer the same dilemma?

Donna
 
Yes. My GP said that menopause and blood sugars are a nightmare, just as in adolescence. And it doesnt end when your periods end. My periods stopped 5 years ago, a few weeks after my type 2 diagnosis. I still seem to have a 5 week cycle of fluctuations which, now I test my blood sugar levals so often, I can map and make allowance for with my carb intake.

all the best, and welcome.

It might help if you fill in what type you are, and any meds or diet only, as then other posters can see and respond appropriately. I am assuming, from your comments, type 2 diet only? I found that buying my own blood suger meter and test strips invaluable to help me decide what to eat to keep my blood sugars normal.

What sort of lows are you getting? I get lows too, and go weak and shaky and have to eat something. So I try to keep my carbs around 80g a day, especially on my 5th week when my hormones still seem to go made, even without a period happening.

paging @daisy1 for her excellent advice too.
 
I’m 53 and post meno by a few years and no, the hormones still roar. I can tell because I get a huge thick white horse hair on my lower cheek. However it doesn’t come out every month but I see it in my bg. A few days, 3-4 , I run higher than normal and fight to keep it down and a few days before or after I fight to keep it up. Very frustrating indeed. The joys of meno!

A slow to moderate 15 min walk after meals helps SOMETIMES. At least it relieves a little stress
 
@donnarob112

Hello Donna and Rob and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask questions and someone will help you.


Basic information for New Members

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
・ Reduce your carbohydrate intake
・ Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 250,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - an evidence-based, structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
・ Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
・ 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
・ Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
・ 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
・ Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
・ 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l

However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
・ structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
・ self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I am 55 and yet to even start the menopause . I just wish it would all be over.
So I will be aware of higher levels
 
I am 55 and yet to even start the menopause . I just wish it would all be over.
So I will be aware of higher levels
pre menopause, for about three years before actual menopause happens, can mess with your levels. Worth maybe keeping track to see if you go higher or lower just before and during your period? Then, when you see the pattern, you can be aware and, if possible, adjust your food and meds for it?

I hope I haven't been too personal.
 
I am 55 and yet to even start the menopause . I just wish it would all be over.
So I will be aware of higher levels

The chances, at 55, of not even being perimenopausal are next to zero. Like when we went through puberty, as in - taking a period of time to develop fertility due to hormone changes, the reverse or menopause takes some time too. You will be at the very least in perimenopause - the reverse of puberty. You can have periods right up 'the end' of fertility.
 
Im in my 60s and now happily post menopausal
I found that when I took things that helped reduce menopausal symptoms ( clary sage, chromium, black cohosh) I noticed less wild fluctuations in blood sugar - whether the effect was because of a direct effect of the supplements on BS or a side effect of being able to get more sleep due to reduced night sweats I never knew
 
The association with insulin resistance and diabetes and hormones is a very interesting one. I too am a person who developed T2D at perimenopause, which is not uncommon, quite the opposite, I believe. I thought I was having a very bad menopause, mood and complications wise, when in actual fact I was having a very fast entre into big-time T2 diabetes.

I don't know if it makes sense to think in terms of a menstrual hormonal cycle once it is all over though @Kristin251. I'm not quite sure what you mean about hormones roaring. All people have hormones, and hormones are a crucial part of blood glucose regulation - absolutely. Different levels of hormones affect us very personally absolutely too, and can account for traits such as a large appetite (ie leptin and ghrelin, and I think there is another one that we know of there that I forget the name of). And what they call our sex hormones have a huge impact on all of us for sure. As indeed there exists quite wide differences in the sex drive too, as well as fertility issues, which are a much bigger deal these days with insulin resistance, for both men and women. And these things have a hormonal basis, in response to the environment.

We post-menopausal women still have hormones! Just not the ones that made us fertile roaring away at least any more. And for T2, the key is insulin (a hormone after all) in response to food, and cortisol in response to stress, is my understanding. Estrogen and Progesterone do not even enter onto my own T2D hormone horizon. (Maybe they should? But I strongly doubt it.)
 
I cant speak for @Kristin251 but my hormones roar every 4 weeks, just like they did when I had PMT. Only now it stands for Post Menopausal Tension, with no actual period. Then it all dies down again for 4 weeks, and my blood sugars are normal, then I have a week of highs, lows and general tetchiness.
 
Exactly! I can track them as well. The Only problem is sometimes the lows first then the highs or vice versa but it’s every 21-23 days. Just like my cycle was. And yes the same PMS symptoms. Just no period. So whatever it is, it is and it effects my bg.
 
You have not been too personal.
Very little embarrasses me
 
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