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Type 1 Metformin and high results also on insulin

Hannah11688

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Insulin
Hi.

I'm only recently diagnosed type 1 diabetic (jan 3 2016) I was originally put on novorapid and levemir. Which was fine. Had a few hypos. Dr decreased insulin and decided to add in metformin. However I took it with my tea 3 days in a row, had 3 high readings consecutively the last one being 22.4 - prior to the metformin they were normally between 7 - 9 before bed. I was waking up with higher readings in the morning 11-15. I stopped the metformin because I panicked and didn't want to end up with dka again. The following day I had exact same tea. Did my sugars before bed and they were 7.6. Has anybody experienced this before. I'm so confused I know logically it should lower them not increase them. Help.....
 
welcome here Hannah11688 :) ..
I am type 2 so I wont be much use for you ... I am also on metformin though . but there are plenty of type 1 people in here, it would help you a lot if you write what type you are just under your avatar ..

hope you´ll love this forum so many sweet helpfull people,

I´ll tag @daisy1 she´ll send you the news everybody new in here gets , very valuable information and really worth learning..

what helps the most on high numbers is to eat moderate level of carbs...

what are you afraid of conserning metformin ???
 
Metformin has very little effect on blood sugars. It works on the liver, not the pancreas, helping to reduce the amount of glucose the liver produces. It helps with weight loss (appetite suppressant) and insulin resistance but only to a limited extent. Whatever is causing your higher levels, it isn't Metformin.
 
Hi Hannah, I'm also type 2 and agree with @Bluetit1802 on the meformin which should lower your BG, although from what I've read you need to be on the maximum dose for it to have any meaning full effect and that won't be much. You probably need some type 1's to give you more information on what else to look for as you're on insulin.
 
Hi. That is simply weird. I've been on Metformin for 14 years and insulin for 4 and with both and I have no obvious problems. Is the Metformin the SR (Slow Release) version or not. I wonder whether it's the standard version and it's causing some bowel issues which might raise blood sugar; just guessing.
 
I've got no idea if it's slow release. I don't think it is as over 3 weeks I was supposed to up it each week. I took at night with tea as I had read about the awful side affects. Each tablet is 500. I've been trying to stick to a fairly samey samey diet so I can try and get my sugars stable. Prior to the week I started taking metformin. I only had 1 hypo because I missed lunch. I take the metformin for 3 days = 3 hypos at around 4pm. I eat tea 1st day bs 14 at 10 pm 2nd day 16bs 3rd day 22 at 10 pm. I ended up staying up till 12 am trying to get it down. I wasn't battling illness at the time. Then like I say the next day deliberately had the same tea bs test at 10 pm 7.6. Thank you all for your help. Ive had a break for a few days so think I will try it again. I'm seeing the diabetic nurse on Tuesday so will have another trial run and then speak to her. X
 
welcome here Hannah11688 :) ..
I am type 2 so I wont be much use for you ... I am also on metformin though . but there are plenty of type 1 people in here, it would help you a lot if you write what type you are just under your avatar ..

hope you´ll love this forum so many sweet helpfull people,

I´ll tag @daisy1 she´ll send you the news everybody new in here gets , very valuable information and really worth learning..

what helps the most on high numbers is to eat moderate level of carbs...

what are you afraid of conserning metformin ???

I'm scared of having the high numbers as I ended up with dka in January. In hospital ketones of +7 5 drips. Numerous blood tests. Being away from my daughter as I'm a single parent. So I need to prevent those high numbers and seeing the 22 scared the bananas out of me. Also heard about the mean side affects of metformin. I can't take a vitamin tablet without being sick. Xx
 
@Hannah11688

Hello Hannah and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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