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ashette

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Hi there, I've recently been to the GP and wanted some advice as I've been given some mixed messages and am not sure how to proceed - I recently went to the doctor as I'd been feeling dehydrated at night and getting dry mouth and eyes - he sent me for a fasting blood glucose test, and when that came back at 8 the doctor I saw ( a different one) sent me for another fasting blood glucose, this time including an hba1c test.

I tried to get in to see my gp the following week and could only book to see the nurse through the reception. She told me the test results came back at 7.3 and 49 respectively and that I had diabetes but needed to see the Dr so booked me in for an appointment the following day.

When I saw the Dr he told me I had prediabetes and told me to lose a stone over the next 3 months. No other advice or support offered. I am now totally confused as the nurse told me they don't treat anything under 47 for the hba1c test so by that standard i would have diabetes, but the doctor didn't seem concerned at all. Does this match your experience of treatment or should I be going back to the GP? Obviously I need to lose weight and am adjusting my diet etc. but looking on the forum it sounds like there's a lot of useful information about specific dieting that would be really useful and nothing like that was discussed.
 
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dawnmc

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Hi ashette, welcome, you have the opportunity to nip this in the bud, do read the forum. Reduce your carbs, walk too, exercise helps a lot. Reducing carbs like bread, pasta, rice and fruit. Eat berries and good fats, like olive oil avocado and almonds.
 
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Hi ashette
welcome to the forum :)

tagging @daisy1 for her great starter pack of info for people newly diagnosed.


as suggested have a read around until daisy arrives a bit later ( she must be having a lie in this morning ):cool:

and any questions do please ask - there are no silly ones. !!
 
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daisy1

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@ashette

Hello Ashette and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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geoffh

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No lie-in for @daisy1 today then! ;)

You're not alone. From my brief time here I've heard people speak about some interesting conversations and advice from their doctors and diabetic nurses, ranging from helpful, to downright dangerous.

Whatever the doctor says, if your fasting blood glucose is at that level (and it could be a lot higher - don't panic too much) then you are at a huge risk of developing diabetes (or already have it). Daisy's advice is brilliant - to be honest it's probably a lot more useful than anything you'll get from your GP or diabetic nurse (unless you're really really lucky).

I've been worried about developing diabetes for years (both parents had it) and now I do, I've taken the opportunity to sort my diet and exercise out - and I'm loving it. Hang around - ask lots of questions!! :)
 
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Catlady19

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Hi and welcome, you have come to the right place - lots of great information and advice on the website and forum.

I got told I had diabetes over the phone as the doctor wanted me to know asap before my booked appointment (I had an appointment booked in the following week), he just said cut out all sweet stuff, potatoes, rice and pasta and left me a prescription for metformin. Obviously I hit the internet in a panic and discovered this place - thank heavens :D.

@daisy1's advice is a great place to start. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions.
 
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ashette

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Thanks everyone that's all been really helpful and very reassuring. Looking here and elsewhere on the Internet it looks like low carb diet is the most common suggestion, I suspect my partner will be less than enthusiastic about the idea though so any recipe suggestions gratefully accepted :).

Is it worth testing blood glucose at this stage?
 

DeejayR

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Welcome. There are several recipe sections on here for you to browse, plus "what have you eaten today" threads. And yes, start blood testing asap. If you want help in getting a meter, let us know.
Mrs DeeJay is very supportive and eats most of what I cook for us but I do have the steamer divided in half for his'n'hers veggies, when we share the same piece of meat or fish.
 
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Hi and welcome,

With two fasting glucose tests over 7, and an HbA1c of 48 or above, most doctors would diagnose diabetes (not pre-diabetes). On this occasion, I believe your nurse is correct, and your doctor is misreading something. However, it does sound like you will be called back for another test in 3 months, and that is exactly what would happen with a diabetes diagnosis, so you haven't lost anything because of the mixed messages. The treatment is the same. That is, diet and added exercise for 3 months and then another review.

Have a good read round the forum, reduce those carbs, especially potatoes, rice, pasta, bread and cereals, and most importantly, buy a glucose meter and start testing out your reaction to meals. (test before eating and 2 hours after starting).

Good luck, and ask questions.
 
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4ratbags

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Stick with us and you will be fine, there is a lot of conflicting advice out there but being a member on the forum will help you to no end. Have a good look around the low carb forum and ask any questions you can think of, we are only too willing to help. It can take time to build up a good LC recipe collection and while it takes a bit of getting used to once you have made the change you will find it easier.
 
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