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Mmol morning reading

DavidCMarsh

DavidCMarsh

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
For reasons that are beyond my comprehension my fasting morning readings have doubled!!!! Now they have gone from a regular 5.5 to 13.7.
I’m doing nothing at all different to what I’ve been doing for the past few years.
I should say that I don’t count carbs as ‘She who must be obeyed’ is in charge of all things food, she is as thin as a chip and makes sure nothing of pleasure passes my lips.
 
DavidCMarsh said:
For reasons that are beyond my comprehension my fasting morning readings have doubled!!!! Now they have gone from a regular 5.5 to 13.7.
I’m doing nothing at all different to what I’ve been doing for the past few years.
I should say that I don’t count carbs as ‘She who must be obeyed’ is in charge of all things food, she is as thin as a chip and makes sure nothing of pleasure passes my lips.
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Can you tell us which diabetes meds you are on?

Have these readings suddenly jumped, or have they been increasing gradually over a period of time?

How often do you test, and at which times of day?

Have you been gaining any weight, especially around your middle?

What are you typically eating in a day?
 
If you don't count carbs then you have no control - and being fat or thin doesn't really matter - it is all about the carbs.
You might be getting more glucose pumped out by a helpful liver 'thinking' you are in need of energy to catch your breakfast, or to trek miles to find water - it can be a mystery sometimes - but I don't see high numbers when eating low carb, and the foods are delicious.
 
That was before breakfast. A full English would go down a treat but ‘She who must be obeyed, aka The Rottweiler’ keeps me in check. Two boiled eggs and the smell of a barmaids apron is the best I can do.....on a good day!!!
 
DavidCMarsh said:
That was before breakfast. A full English would go down a treat but ‘She who must be obeyed, aka The Rottweiler’ keeps me in check. Two boiled eggs and the smell of a barmaids apron is the best I can do.....on a good day!!!
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It would be helpful if you told us what meds you are on and what you typically eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Is it just your fasting number that has increased, or is it also higher throughout the day?
 
Well I say it's about time you took control of it yourself. Others mean well (ie your concerned wife) BUT it is not her who has diabetes. If you want a full english (minus the toast etc if your aim is to low carb), then have one, bacon and all. I do understand her I think because she is probably thinking healthy means no fat and so on. It's time to educate your lovely missus.
 
You can have a feast on bacon, eggs, a tomato, mushrooms (fried in butter), and a sausage that has a high meat content (97% pork are best), as long as there are no beans or bread, and not see a rise in your glucose levels, nor a rise in cholesterol. Tell your other half that! Its a perfect meal for us. It doesn't have to be for breakfast. Two boiled eggs are fine for breakfast, or an omelette with cheese etc. as long as there is no toast or bread.
 
Thanks for your replies. The medications I’m on are as follows:-

Clopidogrel 75mg Film Coated.
Ibersartan 300mg Film Coated.
Simvastatin 40mg Film Coated.
Lansoprazole 15mg gastro resistant capsule.
Glyceryl trinitrate 400 micro grams/dose aero sublingual spray.
Trajenta linagliptin 5mg Film Coated tablets.
Zero double gel (Thornton & Ross).

I do have one or two other issues which are and have been under control for many years, but this episode of high Mmol is quite new.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
What are your typical daily meals?
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Breakfast is just two eggs, either boiled, scrambled, coddled or made into an omelette.
Lunch is generally a salad of some description.
Dinner is maybe a stew, pork with asparagus and sweet potato, fondue without bread, anything without root vegetables generally.
Puddings are generally a sugar free yoghurt with fruit.
My height is, in English, five feet ten inches, my weight is twelve stone eight pounds.
Due to having severe Paget’s disease in my leg exercise is very limited.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
It would be helpful if you told us what meds you are on and what you typically eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Is it just your fasting number that has increased, or is it also higher throughout the day?
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I have given details of my diet in answer to another questionnaire but it is in fact my fasting numbers that have increased. I only test first thing in the mornings. DCM.
 
KK123 said:
Well I say it's about time you took control of it yourself. Others mean well (ie your concerned wife) BUT it is not her who has diabetes. If you want a full english (minus the toast etc if your aim is to low carb), then have one, bacon and all. I do understand her I think because she is probably thinking healthy means no fat and so on. It's time to educate your lovely missus.
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Well I/we do try and for years my readings have remained pretty constant at between 4.5 and 6.0. There have been those very rare occasions when it has reached 9.0 but those high readings have been a rarity. I follow the rules as if a religion. DCM.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
You can have a feast on bacon, eggs, a tomato, mushrooms (fried in butter), and a sausage that has a high meat content (97% pork are best), as long as there are no beans or bread, and not see a rise in your glucose levels, nor a rise in cholesterol. Tell your other half that! Its a perfect meal for us. It doesn't have to be for breakfast. Two boiled eggs are fine for breakfast, or an omelette with cheese etc. as long as there is no toast or bread.
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Thank you Bluetit1802.
I do have at times delicious meals such as you describe.
 
Your fasting readings have doubled for a reason, and it would be wise to try and find out this reason. I suggest you start testing at other times to see what is happening. Before evening meal (normally the lowest reading of the day), and an hour and 2 hours after the start of evening meal, then again at bedtime. Hopefully this will give you extra information. The bedtime one compared with the morning one will tell you if you are rising overnight. Try doing this for a few days and let us know the results.
 
Great that "she who must be obeyed" is supportive (my husband is the total opposite; he likes cooking but now doesn't cook for me even when it is something I could eat so we shop and cook separately and leaves open boxes of chocolates, biscuits, crisp etc on the coffee tabl)e
I too struggled with my morning BS. After a lot of trial and error I have very recently found that just having a breakfast and late lunch (nothing after that) my morning glucose is normal for the first time. I have two eggs with a load of chopped vegetables mainly from the following list: (Masses of spinach wilted to nothing!, a large (or 3 small) tomatoes, onion, mushrooms, left over meat, celery, sugarsnap peas, broccoli, cauliflower, etc.) just use whatever you have. The veg fill me up and the eggs give me protein. For lunch I have a salad (or more veg) with meat, fish and/or cheese and then nothing more. I will try and add things like yoghurt etc soon but I have only been in range in the morning for a week now. I can't lose any weight as I am now classed as (just) critically underweight (wasn't fat before diagnosis) so I will need to make sure I don't lose any more weight. I lost one and three quarter stones when I cut the carbs hence my low BMI. Hope that gives you and her indoors some ideas. You can have lovely home made curries with just lots of veg, masses of steamed/microwaved) wilted spinach, bell pepper, etc.

Good luck, I was getting depressed over my high values but am really pleased with my new "lows".
 
DavidCMarsh said:
Breakfast is just two eggs, either boiled, scrambled, coddled or made into an omelette.
Lunch is generally a salad of some description.
Dinner is maybe a stew, pork with asparagus and sweet potato, fondue without bread, anything without root vegetables generally.
Puddings are generally a sugar free yoghurt with fruit.
My height is, in English, five feet ten inches, my weight is twelve stone eight pounds.
Due to having severe Paget’s disease in my leg exercise is very limited.
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The diet looks fine; we ask because until we see it we can't really make an informed comment.

Now more questions; what is your waist measurement? 70"/2=35" which should be your maximum.

Your weight may or may not be O.K.
I am six foot and my weight is best below 12 stone - fell of the wagon recently and my waist went up a couple of inches and my fasting BG was 9.5. Still only weighed 12 stone 6 pounds.
No treats and reduced food intake and I've dropped 3 pounds already, my waist has come back down to 35", and my fasting BG is below 6.

There are some of us who seem to be "thin on the outside fat on the inside" where fat deposits on the internal organs instead of evenly all over the body. If you are like that then you might need to lose a bit of weight. Fat around the liver and pancreas is what causes a lot of the diabetes problems.

Your dominatrix/master chef seems to be doing a great job with managing your diet.
You might have to consider smaller portion sizes and perhaps eating your main meal in the middle of the day to give your body more time to process it before bedtime.

Oh, and statins can be bad for diabetes (read the side effects leaflet) but given the other medications you are taking you may be in an area of limited choice.
 
Well, not being a health care professional, this is just my take on your situation:

The Trajenta should be forcing your pancreas to release more insulin when your blood glucose is elevated (http://chealth.canoe.com/drug/getdrug/trajenta), but maybe your pancreas is no longer capable of producing sufficient insulin despite your low carb diet.

I think you should take some additional readings throughout the day and bring all your readings to your health care team ASAP and see what they say.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
The diet looks fine; we ask because until we see it we can't really make an informed comment.

Now more questions; what is your waist measurement? 70"/2=35" which should be your maximum.

Your weight may or may not be O.K.
I am six foot and my weight is best below 12 stone - fell of the wagon recently and my waist went up a couple of inches and my fasting BG was 9.5. Still only weighed 12 stone 6 pounds.
No treats and reduced food intake and I've dropped 3 pounds already, my waist has come back down to 35", and my fasting BG is below 6.

There are some of us who seem to be "thin on the outside fat on the inside" where fat deposits on the internal organs instead of evenly all over the body. If you are like that then you might need to lose a bit of weight. Fat around the liver and pancreas is what causes a lot of the diabetes problems.

Your dominatrix/master chef seems to be doing a great job with managing your diet.
You might have to consider smaller portion sizes and perhaps eating your main meal in the middle of the day to give your body more time to process it before bedtime.

Oh, and statins can be bad for diabetes (read the side effects leaflet) but given the other medications you are taking you may be in an area of limited choice.
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My waist is 34”. Statins are a pain in the a*se but I was put on them some eleven years ago after a bit of remedial work was done to my heart at Wythenshawe. Portion sizes are as per recommended by the dietician. DCM.
 
I should add that I’ve been at our holiday home here in Spain since the 29th March and will be here until the 15th May and so am subject to the full time healthy Mediterranean Diet. Plus of course a few rays from that great yellow orb in the sky.
 
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