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CarbsRok said:
Slight problem you have no experience of diabetes in any shape or form.
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I disagree
martsnow said:
I know I am going to get slated for this:-

Firstly you have no experience of being diabetic and secondly, why are you trying to cure yourself, when there is nothing wrong with you?.

I am more than a little concerned with your state of mind. You wont go to the Drs for a diagnosis, and I ask myself why. It would probably prove that you are not diabetic.

All the members on this forum are expert in their own field that is diabetes, you my friend are not. Your obsession with "your treatment" is just that "an obsession". I think you should ask your G.P for some kind of investigations into your general health
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It certainly isn't an obsession if someone tries and solve their health problems that affect them seriously every day. All of this stuff about me not being diabetic is only conjecture and I'm obviously an easy target for ridicule because my story seems far fetched. My only agenda when I posted this was to help people who didn't want to go on a ketogenic diet.

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Jaylee said:
Hi,

Quite encouraging the use of chromium in tests on type 2 mice..

I have mice with a similar issue to your symptoms regarding the ones you described... (The whole needing to eat in the night thing.)

Do you think buckwheat on a loaded trap would encourage them to take the bait..?
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Sorry to hear about your mice. I don't think you should put a loaded trap anywhere near your mice if you care about them.

Do you give them lots of fresh food? I hear that feeding them only dried food isn't very good for them.
 
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Jaylee said:
Hi,

Quite encouraging the use of chromium in tests on type 2 mice..

I have mice with a similar issue to your symptoms regarding the ones you described... (The whole needing to eat in the night thing.)

Do you think buckwheat on a loaded trap would encourage them to take the bait..?
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I have a cat that will only eat type 2 mice, does that mean that he is type 2. I have tried checking his BG but every time I prick his paw he claws me to death All that taken into consideration he must be a type 2 cat, he has told me
 
Ok Chris, let's look at the info you've provided, there is conflicting info so as diabetics, perhaps we can advise. Sugar=carbs for us, they have the same effect in our blood. If you were type 2, you would definitely not need coffee with loads of sugar to keep you going, that sugar would have the opposite effect - I think you may be confusing types here, it's type 1 that might need a substance with sugar in if their blood levels drop low. T2 has too much sugar in the blood. Secondly, adrenaline had nothing to do with T2 so that doesn't fit.

Lastly, you cannot possibly self diagnose, it doesn't work like that. As I explained before, exercise alone would not give you a non diabetic result, no matter how vigorous. I'm not sure why you think that a diagnosis of T2 means insulin, it certainly doesn't. Diet is an extremely common way of controlling our diabetes, sometimes medication is added - insulin may be used when other measures have been tried and have not worked.

You honestly cannot say you are diabetic as the info points in another direction. Buy a meter and strips ( less than £15, look for SD Codefree) and test 2 hours after each meal - you will soon know if you're diabetic or not. My guess is, on the info you've given, you're not. Sorry, but just because you think it, doesn't make it fact. So, I guess that is why you are getting a hard time here - you are well intentioned but ill informed I'm afraid, advising from the perspective of experience with diabetes, when you don't actually have it.
 
chris55561612 said:
Sorry to hear about your mice. I don't think you should put a loaded trap anywhere near your mice if you care about them.
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You misunderstand, I don't care for these pests in the least.

My concern is the the long term complications from uncontrolled T2.
 
martsnow said:
I have a cat that will only eat type 2 mice, does that mean that he is type 2. I have tried checking his BG but every time I prick his paw he claws me to death All that taken into consideration he must be a type 2 cat, he has told me
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I know your were addressing Jaylee and not myself but dang your cat sounds clever.
 
ladybird64 said:
Ok Chris, let's look at the info you've provided, there is conflicting info so as diabetics, perhaps we can advise. Sugar=carbs for us, they have the same effect in our blood. If you were type 2, you would definitely not need coffee with loads of sugar to keep you going, that sugar would have the opposite effect - I think you may be confusing types here, it's type 1 that might need a substance with sugar in if their blood levels drop low. T2 has too much sugar in the blood. Secondly, adrenaline had nothing to do with T2 so that doesn't fit.

Lastly, you cannot possibly self diagnose, it doesn't work like that. As I explained before, exercise alone would not give you a non diabetic result, no matter how vigorous. I'm not sure why you think that a diagnosis of T2 means insulin, it certainly doesn't. Diet is an extremely common way of controlling our diabetes, sometimes medication is added - insulin may be used when other measures have been tried and have not worked.

You honestly cannot say you are diabetic as the info points in another direction. Buy a meter and strips ( less than £15, look for SD Codefree) and test 2 hours after each meal - you will soon know if you're diabetic or not. My guess is, on the info you've given, you're not. Sorry, but just because you think it, doesn't make it fact. So, I guess that is why you are getting a hard time here - you are well intentioned but ill informed I'm afraid, advising from the perspective of experience with diabetes, when you don't actually have it.
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Thanks for your help, maybe I should go to see a GP and get myself sorted out that way because if my symptoms say just the opposite to type 2 then it sounds like you and these people are right. I couldn't take them very seriously because their comments were written in such an unconstructive way but I trust you and that you know what you are talking about. Thanks for your help.
 
chris55561612 said:
Thanks for your help, maybe I should go to see a GP and get myself sorted out that way because if my symptoms say just the opposite to type 2 then it sounds like you and these people are right. I couldn't take them very seriously because their comments were written in such an unconstructive way but I trust you and that you know what you are talking about. Thanks for your help.
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Good idea. If the comments were unconstructive it's because we don't want others who are new to diabetes to be misled. Good luck.
 
chris55561612 said:
Hi, I realized last night that when I went to get diagnosed I probably wasn't truly diabetic because it was some time after that, while at university, that my blood glucose control problems became really bad. It was the main reason I dropped out. I was drinking coffee with lots of sugar in just to make it through the lectures (at that time I knew nothing really about nutrition). The fact that I forgot this bit of information is frustrating. It was at uni too that I started waking up in the night on adrenaline as well, but I had been feeling bad after eating carbs for a long time before this, which is why I went to take the test in the first place.
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Perhaps you were suffering from caffine overload due to the amount of coffee you were drinking.
 
Brilliant thread!

I am assuming the OP is a spoof.

The evidence is all there: person who does not have T2 starts a thread on a diabetes support forum claiming they have cured their (non-existant) T2 using a variety of methods, and thinking they know more about the subject than people with years or decades of personal experience. The evidence cited is (obviously) unverifiable due to the unscientific methods used, lack of evidence, lack of control groups and single example.

Very entertaining.
Thank you for cheering up my rainy Sunday afternoon.
 
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Brunneria said:
Brilliant thread!

I am assuming the OP is a spoof.

The evidence is all there: person who does not have T2 starts a thread on a diabetes support forum claiming they have cured their (non-existant) T2 using a variety of methods, and thinking they know more about the subject than people with years or decades of personal experience. The evidence cited is (obviously) unverifiable due to the unscientific methods used, lack of evidence, lack of control groups and single example.

Very entertaining.
Thank you for cheering up my rainy Sunday afternoon.
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I'm glad you found it entertaining
 
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