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Type 2 Need a little help

Bigread19

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi there. Im new to the forum scene, in fact its the first one i have ever used. Anyway i have been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes with a hb1ac of 75% im on medication ( metformin and sitagliptin) and after 4 months the score has gone down to 57%. Im finding the the hole process incredibly difficult i have been told to lose weight but this is easier said than done, i am a lover of my food and trying to lose weight and watch my sugar and carb intake would mean pretty much salad all the time,this is driving me insane, i do try and think of the benefits and the complications that i could avoid but i keep slipping up. I try all the foods that make you feel fuller for longer but these normally contain a lot of carbs which for me is really bad for my blood levels. ( and still do not make me feel full) for those interested i am 6'1" and weigh 20st . 31 years old and have a very active physical job. I would say a rugby player stature.
My apologies for the long thread but its a difficult issue for me and I genuinely feel bad
Any kind suggestions would be welcomed warmly..
Thanks
 
Welcome to the forums Bigread, I am tagging @daisy1 who will be along soon with lots of useful info.
Have you tried the Low Carb High Fat way of eating yet.. It works for a lot of us T2's .. you fill up on fats not carbs, I can fully recommend it as its knocked my T2 in to remission .. I lost 5st (got a stone more to loose) and I feel great. I am also a food lover .. and its easy to create interesting, filling meals once you get the hang of low carbs.
 
Welcome @Bigread19

No need to feel bad. Most of us here have been where you are at different times and this forum is a great place to get support and information to help you get thru that. Do you have a meter to measure your levels? If not you must get one as this can be the key to help chose your meals and motivate you to get those levels down and lose some weight. Also look at the Low Carb High Fat forums on here to get an idea of hat has worked for others.

That first post is often very hard to make so make sure you continue to post and there will be support here
 
Hi, welcome @Bigread19 The advice to go LCHF is very sound. Many here find it has radically changed their life for the better. My family has converted to it, but I am the only PWD. So it is not rabbit food for life. We eat a varied diet, but choose our ingredients carefully.

I have got my own system of selecting foods. 1) read the carbs label. If <5 g per 100g then ok. If above 5 then treat with caution. 2) Some foods are a no no for me since my meter shows they spike me. Others are ok as special treats occasionally, Many just need small portions. Some just get left on the side of my plate. We eat stews, casseroles, pizza (LC recipe) mash (LC substitute), curry & rice (LC adapted) chips or crisps (LC substituted), loads of fish. loads of cheese. The secret is to use fats and oils to offset the lower carb input, and this is what eases ths munchies and gives a satisfied feeling after a meal.

Explore the Low Carb threads, and get a meter and a notebook or diary.
 
Hello @Bigread19 and welcome to the forum. This is a brilliant forum full of supportive, friendly people whose knowledge is gained from first hand experience. While dieting you may find myfitnesspal website useful for monitoring your calorie and cRb intake and logging your exercise. Like the previous posters I follow a low carb diet and find it very useful for weight loss while feeling full. Keep posting and if you have a question somebody will be able to answer it. :)
 
@Bigread19

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, as one of those people that spends a lot of time thinking about (and eating) food I can really recommend the LCHF lifestyle. There are many possibilities for great meals and after a few weeks of cutting down I no longer get uncontrolled cravings, digest my food a lot better and have lost a bit of weight. It's really worth a try.
 
To all those who are replying to my question i wish to thank you so much for your help. I sm trying to reply but when i send the reply it comes up with an error (internal server error) so i will continue to try and post my reply.

I didn't want you guys to think im being ignorant
 
I have to totally agree with previous posters.
I went for a birthday chinese all you can eat meal yesterday and it was a success. Unlike all the other 44yrs.
Protein, protein and chinese veg in garlic was very very filling. I pulled out meats from sauces. Yes they were very taste but not too much sugar.
In the past I would have craved bbq spare rib sticky sauce and rice, chips and more rice. Slept off at home.
The lchf has allowed me double cream and butter which I never had before fear of having a heart attack. In context very helpful to fend off hunger.
I've never been as content on a 'diet'.
Personally I fill up on protein. At first eat loads of eggs and reintroduced veg into my diet.
 
Welcome. Like you I love my food and find the winter months very hard. I,m alot better in the summer where I enjoy salads
 
Hi guys. Many thanks for your kind words and advice. Since being diagnosed i have felt left in the dark somewhat as to what is going on and how to go about it. I was pretty much chucked on tablets and told to lose weight. From there on its just a blur. I didn't really take the diagnosis seriously at first and it wasn't until i read up on it myself did i get the bombshell of how serious it can be.. I smack in the gob shall we say....
Many thanks for the tips and advice, i do have a blood meter but i have never considered using it to choose my meals. And as for the low carb high fat diet, it sounds very interesting and positive with clearly awesome results. Well done Enclave.

Once again many thanks to your replies. They are really welcomed
 
Hi @Bigread19 it is daunting at first, and especially difficult to get your head around eating fat, but eating low carb and healthy fats has been how many T2 on the forum have lost weight. I find I am significantly less hungry eating fats and low carb than I was on a higher carb diet, I have to ensure I eat enough to maintain my weight, good job I have a cheese fixation.

There are a number of threads called what have you eaten today, have a quick look and you will be able to see what others are eating, there are very few salads on there :-)

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/page-230#post-1092783

Low carb vegetables are especially good for many T2s in filling us up without causing a spike in blood glucose (BG) levels. As we are all different you will need to test how your body reacts and handles carbs.
There are lower carb options for traditional high carb foods:

mashed potatoes:
mashed cauliflower or mashed celeriac work very well, add butter or splash of cream if doing LCHF. I like to add garlic and herbs.

Chips:
celeriac works well instead of oven chips, or cut courgette into a fat chip shape and coat in egg and almond flour ‘batter’ and bake into a courgette fritter/chip

Dauphinoise potatoes
Celeriac works really well in place of potatoes, add plenty of cream, butter and garlic for a LCHF version.

Pasta:
pasta quills - use courgettes slices into sort of chunks instead, steam or cook briefly in boiling water – don’t overcook or like pasta it will go mushy, serve with low carb sauce.
Small patty pan squash cut into quarters also work well, cook until just tender.
fettuccini or tagliatelle – can use courgettes cut into thicker strips
spaghetti - spaghetti squash is great when I can find it or can use courgette ( I use a julienne peeler much cheaper than a spiraliser )
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but needs to be cooked gently or it will fall apart, I normally add to sauce to be warmed up
cannelloni pasta tubes - I use aubergine slices rolled around the filling or leeks carefully sliced to open them into a sheet and then rolled around the filling .
lasagne sheets - aubergine or courgette sliced lengthways or leeks folded all work well, don’t need precooking.

Bread - use nut flours instead of wheat flour, lots of recipes on forums such as oopsie bread or almond flour breads, I add a spoonful of ground flaxseeds to add fibre to the ‘bread’

Wraps – large lettuce leaves make great sandwich filling or burger holders

Crisps - melted cheese blobs is yummy

Nachos – use thick strips of raw pepper to serve guacamole or chilli beef etc

Gratin/breadcrumb topping - Almond or coconut flour instead of bread works great, add savoury seasoning such as herbs or garlic for gratin toppings etc as the nut flours can be a little sweet.

Crumble topping – use ground almonds instead of wheat flour for sweet crumble topping, fruits don’t need any extra sweeteners or sugar, add cinnamon and mixed spice for added sweet taste without needing sugar, serve with double cream for extra sweet taste.
 
Hi guys. Many thanks for your kind words and advice. Since being diagnosed i have felt left in the dark somewhat as to what is going on and how to go about it. I was pretty much chucked on tablets and told to lose weight. From there on its just a blur. I didn't really take the diagnosis seriously at first and it wasn't until i read up on it myself did i get the bombshell of how serious it can be.. I smack in the gob shall we say....
Many thanks for the tips and advice, i do have a blood meter but i have never considered using it to choose my meals. And as for the low carb high fat diet, it sounds very interesting and positive with clearly awesome results. Well done Enclave.

Once again many thanks to your replies. They are really welcomed
Good hunting with the LCHF recipe book in hand [LOL] We who have experience in these matters are here to assist where we can, so if you have Q's then post them & hopefully get the A's you seek.
 
@Bigread19 It took me a couple of years to really take on board my diagnosis and I only really started to take it seriously when I got the first signs of diabetic retinopathy (eye damage). At that point I was addicted to carb-heavy foods and my BMI was nudging 50 :wideyed: Making the shift to LCHF was a huge leap of faith for me, but with the masses of support I received on this forum I did it and my results have been incredible!! I'm coming up to my first anniversary of LCHF eating having lost over 8 stones and soon to see my BMI below the 30 mark when I will no longer be clinically obese (just overweight :hilarious: ). Good luck on your journey x
 
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