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jlb

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Hi I have just found this forum. I am not diabetic myself but my mum is. She is type 2. I'm quite worried about her and any advice on what I can do would be great. She has been diabetic for around 10 years and is in her 50's. She has always been told she is not a 'typical diabetic' for some reason. Anyway she has been to the docs who did not believe she has been taking her medication and been told she is a 'ticking time bomb'. She currently takes me form in and another one and has now been put on a third.she has a normal bmi and is following a slimming world diet and tries to take regular exercise but her blood sugars will not come down. I know she is so worried. Does anyone have any advice? Thankyou :)
 
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Hi @jlb & welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look a round the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

You probably need to be looking at her diet, lots on here follow a Low Carbohydrate Diet & High Fat, the carbohydrates turn to sugar so you need to restrict them.

Bread Rice Pasta some fruit and cereals & and vegetables from below the ground would be off the menu or greatly restricted.

Neil
 
Thanku for the reply. I know she has been on a course about diet and believe she is following it. But really struggling. I know stress can affect blood sugars and I guess the more she stresses the worse it can get.....vicious cycle. All advice is greatly received.so thankyou :)
 
Thanku for the reply. I know she has been on a course about diet and believe she is following it. But really struggling. I know stress can affect blood sugars and I guess the more she stresses the worse it can get.....vicious cycle. All advice is greatly received.so thankyou :)
Hi, first just to say Daisy will probably be along in the morning now. The info will be invauable.

Re the diet, you probably will find this hard to get your head round but if your Mum has been on a Diabetic Course either DESMOND or EXPERT the dietary advice given does not help us diabetics very much, in fact I believe the EXPERT course is now offering (and that is just recently) A Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) diet. reducing the carb intake should reduce her sugars, the medications do very little in reducing the BS.

Lots on here as Type 2 test, that is take readings of the BS just before eating 1hr after and then 2hrs to see what foods are raising your blood sugars.

You will need to do a lot of reading, don't panic it will start to make sense. Please ask anything that you do not understand but also have a look around the forum.

Neil
 
@jlb

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

This is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you to help your mum with her levels. Ask all the questions you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Fan thankyou that us very helpful :)
 
What a caring daughter your Mum has , the information from Daisy is invaluable , it should help your Mum a lot .
 
Hi. Assuming your Mum isn't overweight to any degree then you need to check the T2 diagnosis with the GP. It's quite possible she is a late onset T1 as I am and many GPs don't believe you can be a T1 other than as a child. There are two tests that can be done, but if you Mum doesn't have excess weight and is needing three tablets (which I did) then I'm afraid insulin may well be needed. It's not a problem and a welcome relief, however, do check what your Mum is eating as Slimming World food can be carb heavy and as diabetics we need to keep the carbs down. So, check she is keeping the carbs down to, say, below 150gm/day and arrange to see the GP. I was initially refused insulin by my diabetes GP who 1 year later told me I had to have it!
 
It might help to know the type of things your mum normally eats to see if we can suggest any changes. Sw can have a lot of carb based foods like potatoes pasta and rice which a lot of forum members can't eat. Also low/fat free yogurts tend to have more sugar than full fat Greek or natural yogurts
 
Thanx guys. I was just talking to her about the insulin option.finger crossed it gets sorted soon
 
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