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need help to control t2diabetes for indian

smrfss

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hi, every one my name is riyaz from india. my age is about 34 years,i have diabetes from almost 8 years till now, my sugar levels always high about 13.0 to 20 almost fasting or pp. i cannot have control on it. last year i have surgery for my gallbladder infection. they remove the gallbladder, my doctor advice me insulin novomix 30 from novo nordisk + gemer m1. it shows better result at starting of my surgery almost like 4.0 to 7.0.now again its uncontrolled.

please help me i am very confusing what to eat or what not to eat, i am reading lots of suggestions i cannot under stand, i am from andhra pradesh state, its south india so please can any one tell me the names directly, not as low carbs diet,what to do for my diabetes to stable for long time please help me , as my work is tailoring most timing sitting, i do walking also about 30 min in night times,

please help, thank you every one
 
thankyou kokhongw sir , i am eating break fast brawn bread about 150 grams weight+ whole 2 eggs omelet, some times milk tea not every morning,
launch brawn bread about 225 grams+ (chicken curry with little potato) or (mixed veg curry) + 1 cup rice
same like launch almost, thankyou
 
thankyou kokhongw sir , i am eating break fast brawn bread about 150 grams weight+ whole 2 eggs omelet, some times milk tea not every morning,
launch brawn bread about 225 grams+ (chicken curry with little potato) or (mixed veg curry) + 1 cup rice
same like launch almost, thankyou

I would suggest that you stop eating the bread,potato and rice for a start. That will bring down the glucose spikes. Also because bread and rice will make you feel hungry faster. Eat some nuts eg cashew, almond, macadamia instead or fatty meat.
 
sir, can i take peanut, sunflower seeds, milk,tuna,chicken instead, because i eat lot of times even when i didn't feel hungry, its must to eat, when we feel hungry to eat or the timing like breakfast,lunch,dinner? sir i read some where fenugreek (methi)seeds also helps to control diabetes is it right?
 
It is not necessary to eat all the time. The weakness is temporary and will pass as our body adapts and use the fats stored

It is best to eat less in the evening and sleep early. This allows the body to repair and heal itself.

Medication, supplements and herbs can help a little.

But it is thru learning what food to eat and when not to eat that we restore our health.
 
@smrfss when we stop eating high carbohydrate foods and begin eating low carbohydrate foods we have to eat more healthy fats so we're not hungry and are satisfied, also so we're getting enough calories. If you do this, you'll feel better after a few weeks and your blood glucose levels will come down. If you need to snack between meals, nuts, cheese, or avocado are good.

Examples of high carbohydrate foods are sugar, fruit, grain flours, grains (such as rice), bread, pasta, legumes, below ground vegetables such as potatoes. Milk has too much sugar in it. Cream is okay.

Examples of low carbohydrate foods are above ground vegetables, berries, meat, poultry, fish, and seafood, eggs, nuts, seeds, cream, cheese, olives, and avocados.

No carb foods are healthy fats such as butter, ghee, extra virgin olive oil, nut oils, and various animal fats.

Others can list more examples... :)
 
Thankyou ,as you noted there milk has too much sugar,but can i drink skim milk powder noted 1 serve of 250ml is about 12g carbs? And mayonnaise added to bran brown bread? And tuna in oil shredded ?

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Thankyou ,as you noted there milk has too much sugar,but can i drink skim milk powder noted 1 serve of 250ml is about 12g carbs? And mayonnaise added to bran brown bread? And tuna in oil shredded ?

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Hi. While I agree with what's been said already..and there are certain foods which generally will cause a relatively "big spike" in blood sugar for Type 2s (roughly speaking a jump where your blood sugar level is well above 3mmols higher two hours after eating something than it was before eating)...we all differ and are variations on a theme, so some people can eat/drink certain things with less effect on blood sugar than others. The only way to really get in control is to use a meter to check levels before and after eating to see for yourself what is bad for your own system. So, if you don't already have one - can you get one? Personally, I got my levels down by totally avoiding all bread, cereal, potatoes, pasta and rice among other high carb foods. Now, I get away with a little bit now and then if I eat when my levels are nice and low, but if my levels is anywhere near 6.5mmols on my meter..I try not to take the risk (I do fail though and some stuff sneaks in!). Don't be too hard on yourself. You don't need to do everything in one go! Just avoiding as many of the foods mentioned as much as you can will help. You will get there. Note - I would avoid the brown bread completely if possible. Tuna is perfect - no carbs there. Good luck.
 
Thankyou ,as you noted there milk has too much sugar,but can i drink skim milk powder noted 1 serve of 250ml is about 12g carbs? And mayonnaise added to bran brown bread? And tuna in oil shredded ?

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Each person is unique in how many carbs they can tolerate with each meal. For me personally, 12 g carbs would be equal to what I eat for lunch (or dinner) and would spike my blood glucose. Cream, full fat yogurt and cheese are all fine. I understand that we've all been taught to avoid fat, but on the low carbohydrate diet, the calories in healthy fats replace the calories we lose by eliminating high carb foods. Some diabetics can tolerate some bread with fiber, but most probably can't. Mayonnaise is fine, tuna too. I have tuna once a week.

I think pleinster's suggestion to get a blood glucose meter is a good one. I personally use the cheapest test strips I can find then buy the meter to go with it. The glucose meter is an excellent guide and teacher.

I can't imagine not testing throughout the day. It's the only way I have of knowing how the food I'm eating is affecting my blood glucose levels. It helps me. :)
 
@smrfss I used tesco semi-skimmed powder in Nigeria with my cereal but that was pre-low carb diet days.
I used the powder but made it weaker than the recommended scoop level. I needed the extra fluid.
However cereal is high in carbs.
Do not use carnation milk, it's full of sugar.
Eggs, butter and bacon (depending on your religious beliefs). Are fine.
Avoid floury nans, bhajis, pakoda, pancakes or any pastries.

Ask if unsure, someone here will keep you right.
I also agree using a meter, regularly helps a great deal.
 
Thankyou ,please can you tell me what you take in breakfast,lunch& dinner and how many serves. From 2 days im on diet but feels very hungry, im not eating more because afraid of sugar levels. Please tell me what you are taking for food . thankyou

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As you noted brown bread to stop. Iam taking this is the main source for food.please can you replace me with other food. Please advice me. Thankyou

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@smrfss There are three macronutrients: Protein, Fat, and Carbohydrates.

To plan each meal and snack, "Dietitian Cassie", an American who coaches clients on how to use the low carbohydrate diet, teaches "Eat PFC every 3 hours". Here's a link to the article if you want to read it... http://www.dietitiancassie.com/pfc-balanced-eating-part-1-what-is-pfc/

For breakfast, you're off to a partially good start with what you were eating: 2 eggs for Protein, Fat such as butter or ghee to cook in the eggs in, and for the Carbohydrates, just replace the sugary, starchy bread and milk with vegetables. That's one example of a meal planned with "Eat PFC every 3 hours".

For lunch and dinner, you need to choose a Protein such as meat, poultry, fish, or seafood, a Fat such as butter, ghee, full fat yogurt, extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil, a nut oil, raw nuts, green olives, avocado, cream, cheese, or animal fat, and for your Carbohydrates, leafy greens for a salad with a vinaigrette dressing, or above ground vegetables.

Note: When cooking with oils and fats, use lower heat and don't use extra virgin oil oil. It's too fragile and will become damaged. I cook with butter, ghee is excellent too, and my husband cooks with coconut oil. When an oil is needed, many of the nut oils work but you'll have to check their upper temperature limit or "smoke point" when choosing a nut oil. (Heat damaged oils are unhealthy to eat).

For snacks any of the foods or combinations of foods listed above will work. Just don't eat carbohydrates by themselves. Raw nuts are a good snack because they're transportable. I can have them with me where ever I go. As our body adjusts to the low carb diet, meaning we shift from being a "sugar burner" to a "fat burner", I may have a snack of raw nuts between lunch and dinner, but often don't. It gets easier with time.

The reason you're hungry in part is because you're so used to eating lots of high carbohydrate foods, and you haven't yet figured out how to switch out the high carb foods for high fat foods. This is important. You need the calories from the healthy fats. Until you do this you will continue to feel hungry.

You're also likely missing the feeling of fullness that the bread, rice, and potatoes provided. You can meet that need by eating more vegetables, by cooking your vegetables in fat or eating your vegetables raw with a full fat yogurt. You'll feel more satisfied if you eat your vegetables with fat. Vegetables with nuts would work too.

The body burns through foods high in carbohydrates very quickly which is why we often are hungry again within two hours. It takes a couple of weeks, but once your body gets used to burning fat instead of sugar, the feelings of being hungry all the time will go away. You'll feel more comfortable eating every 3 to 5 hours. The range varies from person to person.

The first couple of weeks are the hardest. But you don't need to feel hungry. Eat a source of protein and/or fat with or without a low carb food when ever you're hungry.

Now that you're eliminating processed foods, you need to add salt to your food. If you start having these symptoms your sodium (salt) levels are likely dropping: headache, lethargy, nausea, confusion / "brain fog", irritability. A quick fix for this is to dissolve a 1/4 teaspoon of salt in hot water, stir well, and drink it. If you feel better within 20 minutes or so, that will confirm that your sodium (salt) levels were low.

If you begin experiencing muscle cramps, a magnesium supplement can help, typically taken twice a day, once with breakfast, once with dinner. Ask for suggestions here on which type to take. Magnesium glycinate works well for many people because it doesn't cause loose stools; magnesium citrate is less expensive and helps with both muscle cramps and constipation. Do not take magnesium oxide. Though cheap, it often will cause unwanted side effects.

Here's a link to more information on magnesium and how it is helpful for people who have diabetes... https://authoritynutrition.com/10-proven-magnesium-benefits/

I personally take 150 mg magnesium citrate with breakfast and 300 mg magnesium citrate with dinner. Some members of my diabetes group prefer to use magnesium glycinate.

Keep the questions coming. The first couple of days and weeks are the hardest. It gets easier. :)
 
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