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Peanuts have not insignificant carbs and also protein so don't gorge on them. If you can replace them with something higher-fat that might help.

Slightly grasping at straws - peanuts are not exactly evil.
 
Thanks Spiker, I probably have been over enjoying them. Is there a problem with increasing proteins ?
I am also wondering if I am over consuming fats and protein in the evenings and whether that is a significant problem.
 
If you are very low carb then a proportion of the protein you eat is converted to carbs.

Not sure about eating in the evenings myself, though I know some people advise against it.
 
So my cheese, fish and Greek salad is now a problem. Doesn't that sort if equal itself out? If I eat higher carbs and lower protein that would be the same as eating low carb and higher protein, so I have to cut proteins?
 
Sunstreaker said:
So my cheese, fish and Greek salad is now a problem. Doesn't that sort if equal itself out? If I eat higher carbs and lower protein that would be the same as eating low carb and higher protein, so I have to cut proteins?
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It's fine. That's a great dish. Just pour some oil over it.

Escape the protein vs carbs dilemma by adding fat.
 
I am eating high fat in cheese and diary and fatty oily fish and peanuts. I add olive oil to most salads and veg stir . How do I add more fat without protein, except in the form of oil. Indy admit I don't understand how protein becomes carbohydrate, if I cut protein my diet becomes severely restricted
 
50-60g of protein is enough , use a sardine tin as a measure = 20g meat protein
3 sardine tins of meat fish chicken etc a day
swap a sardine tin for 20g protein of beans lentils pulses, will also have carb in them

use a counter
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
 
I am definitely eating took much protein. Without peanuts just fish I'm eating around 4 sardine tins. Add to that cheese yogurt and peanuts. Surely the three tins does not include diary does it ?
 
Bet you been waiting for that one!. So I really need to count all my protein, there is no easy way. I just looked at the carb protein debate it seems even more confused than the low carb one.
 
Thanks for the help.I need to cut the peanuts. If two small fish fillets=40g protein which I had in my main meal with salad, then I'm thinking my milk, cheese, yogurt will take me over. On a day I may add another tin of fish mid day i would be certainly be over, so easiest for me to drop peanuts. I can't imagine that three sardine size portions of protein a day with veg will be sufficient to not put me back into weight loss.
 
Some recommendations appear to be around 0.8g per pound of body weight. For me at 80kgs 176lbs that would be around 140gs a day of protein. I don't take protein additives/bars or drinks, but with a sedentary job but hour exercise a day I may need a bit more according to some suggestions. Must admit still all confusing.
 
Sunstreaker said:
I took advice given and started to eat peanuts and more fat usually in the form of Greek yoghurt and the decline stopped and had remained constant now for a couple of months. I had my repeat bloods taken last week and my non fasting cholesterol has dropped slight so good news there and my HBA1c has dropped also from six months ago to 6.2, back into pre diabetes range from its 6.5 borderline. Yes this is good but not the hooray I've done it i was hoping for. I can't understand when my diet is relatively stable with previously mentioned fats & cheese my diet consists of mainly salad veg and fish why it's still at this level. Am I just being hard on my self??
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Sunseeker, I'm not entirely clear to understand what you are trying to achieve now?

Your latest results, back into the pre-diabetes range show an improvement, and you should be pleased. Your initial query seemed to be stabilising your weight loss, which you felt needed to stop. To clarify my understanding; I read your messages as you have stabilised your weight loss, but you are now disappointed in the decrease in your bloods? What were you expecting your scores to be?

I can't see anywhere on this thread where you talk about your day-to-day scores, so I have no idea what you are achieving on a day to day basis. Similarly, I can't see where you have said what level of carbs you have been eating daily, or what your carb/protein/fat proportions have been.

What is it about your "cheese, fish and Greek salad" that you consider to be a problem? Are your pre and post eating tests running high?

Sorry for so many questions, and if I have completely missed a great big dollop of information, I apologise.
 
Sunstreaker said:
Some recommendations appear to be around 0.8g per pound of body weight. For me at 80kgs 176lbs that would be around 140gs a day of protein. I don't take protein additives/bars or drinks, but with a sedentary job but hour exercise a day I may need a bit more according to some suggestions. Must admit still all confusing.
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LOL....I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find 300g

https://www.google.com.au/#q=rda protein
Adult men need about 56 grams a day. Adult women need about 46 grams a day. One important exception is pregnant or lactating women. The recommended intake for them rises to 71 grams of protein a day.
http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition/factsheets/basics/protein_-_how_much
are you are doing more than Recreational endurance athletes
0.8-1.0 Protein intake (g/kg/day) [LEAN body mass] @ Exercising four to five times per week for 30 min at <55% VO2peak
 
Thanks andbreathe, I don't have a daily goal. My hope was to reduce my Hbc1a to around 6 or as I understand it below pre diabetes level . Originally it was 6.5, it's now 6.2 that's after 3 stone body weight loss. It seems to me prediabetes is just a word, no point in me dropping Hbc1a levels and restarting pizza and garlic bread diet again, I will always need to low carb for the rest if my life. As someone commented its about the buffer I can create at this point, can I get my diet right to get the best start. I can. At this time my best start is 6.2, but am I making any errors, as some suggest they can get back to non diabetic levels. I did daily test but as mentioned they rarely went high which was why I was surprised my hbc1a was 6.2. Hope that answers the question, very happy to clarify any points. Thanks for all your help here .
 
I do around 30mins cardio and 30 mins resistance a day, although since weight loss I can't lift as much weight. One day off a week will usually long wal the dog. May do a couple of hours kayaking at the weekend and usually 20 lengths I'm the pool Sunday night. I see loads of guts quaffing protein shakes and I know they eat a couple of chicken fillets a night too.
 
A couple of those google links such as mens health are citing pounds or am I getting wrong end of the stick here. Sorry when it comes to numbers I know my limitations
 
Men who work out 5 or more days a week for an hour or longer need 0.55 gram per pound. And men who work out 3 to 5 days a week for 45 minutes to an hour need 0.45 gram per pound. So a 180-pound guy who works out regularly needs about 80 grams of protein a day.

So that's the same 8kgs a day
 
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