nerve problem..neuropathy

[Diawara]

for the last six weeks i have had tingling /nerve problems in my right arm.. starts off from the shoulder then travels down the arm slowly underneath the arm till it terminates at the third and little finger it was pretty painful at first ,now its just irritating its not there all the while it comes and goes.. i have been to a psyotherapist i have used for about fifteen years he mentions trapped ulnar nerve and gave me exercises for it..... i just wondered if its nerve damage due to the type 2, my sugars are under control ..anyone else had similar?

 

[Skippy1]

I have similar sensations in my arms/hands and also very poor grip in the morning. I had tests recently which showed a narrowing of the nerve tunnels through the wrist (carpel tunnel). It can be operated on to clean out the tunnel but I'm holding off as the pain is not constant and I can usually 'shake it out'.
The consultant told me it was because I am diabetic but when I pointed out that only one of the 9 people I know who have carpel tunnel is diabetic, he changed to say that diabetes can make you more susceptible.
Your GP can put you in touch with a consultant to do the tests.

 

[kitedoc]

hi @Diawara, Best not to jump the gun! I would suggest you see your doctor and obtain a diagnosis. Then you will be in a better position to know what to do and what is causing what!!

 

[bulkbiker]

for the last six weeks i have had tingling /nerve problems in my right arm.. starts off from the shoulder then travels down the arm slowly underneath the arm till it terminates at the third and little finger it was pretty painful at first ,now its just irritating its not there all the while it comes and goes.. i have been to a psyotherapist i have used for about fifteen years he mentions trapped ulnar nerve and gave me exercises for it..... i just wondered if its nerve damage due to the type 2, my sugars are under control ..anyone else had similar?

Are you taking statins?

 

[kitedoc]

I have similar sensations in my arms/hands and also very poor grip in the morning. I had tests recently which showed a narrowing of the nerve tunnels through the wrist (carpel tunnel). It can be operated on to clean out the tunnel but I'm holding off as the pain is not constant and I can usually 'shake it out'.
The consultant told me it was because I am diabetic but when I pointed out that only one of the 9 people I know who have carpel tunnel is diabetic, he changed to say that diabetes can make you more susceptible.
Your GP can put you in touch with a consultant to do the tests.

Hi @skippy!, As A T1D have had Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (CTS)on both sides. A paper "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in Patients with Diabetes Polyneuropathy" author. Perkins - Diabetes Care 2002 Mar 25(3) looked at 478 persons, 11 % with no diabetes or neuropathy as the reference group, 17% diabetics ((19% of these T1D) without polyneuropathy; 20% (13% of these T1D) diabetics with mild polyneuropathy; 23% diabetics( of which 13% T1Ds) with moderate polyneuropathy and 30% diabetics (of which T1Ds 20%) with severe neuropathy.
The number with CTS as measured with nerve tests (time for an electrical shock to travel along the median nerve from forearm to fingers which is delayed when the nerve is pressured as in CTS): Reference group (no diabetes or other neuropathy) 2% ; with diabetes and no neuropathy: 14%; with diabetes and some degree (mild, moderate or severe) average 30%.
@Skippy1, I am unsure how many diabetics are included in your acquaintances to reach a figure of 1 in 9 with CTS (? proven or unproven by testing)? and I agree that the % of TIDs in the various categories tested in the categories may not accurately reflect that of the general diabetes population. But CTS is perhaps more common than we would like to think it is!!

 

[enzina]

Hi Diawara,
I had carpal tunnel surgeries on both hands and ulnar nerve decompression on the left elbow roughly five years ago. My consultants in the hand surgery told me it was the high sugar levels at that time.
Since starting insulin my glucose levels are controlled but the pain has started again. I also suffer from peripheral neuropathy.

 

[Bluetit1802]

I had a very similar problem earlier this year and you have my sympathy. It was very unpleasant. I went to a private qualified chiropractor who is also a consultant NHS physio. He diagnosed Cervicobrachial syndrome, did some manipulation and gave me exercises. After 2 sessions, it disappeared. Best money I have ever spent!

 

[Diawara]

Are you taking statins?

@bulkbiker no medications at all stopped metformin in late may {last hbiac 5.3] and only diagnosed in late feb this year its just an irritating tingle occasionaly .. i know the phisyo well enough if he thought it was medical he would refered me to doctors

 

[bulkbiker]

@bulkbiker no medications at all stopped metformin in late may {last hbiac 5.3] and only diagnosed in late feb this year its just an irritating tingle occasionaly .. i know the phisyo well enough if he thought it was medical he would refered me to doctors

Well that's one possible cause ruled out at least!

 

[Diawara]

I had a very similar problem earlier this year and you have my sympathy. It was very unpleasant. I went to a private qualified chiropractor who is also a consultant NHS physio. He diagnosed Cervicobrachial syndrome, did some manipulation and gave me exercises. After 2 sessions, it disappeared. Best money I have ever spent!

@Bluetit1802 i will persevere with his treatments my physio was also nhs trained always got me back on track in the past

 

[Diawara]

Hi Diawara,
I had carpal tunnel surgeries on both hands and ulnar nerve decompression on the left elbow roughly five years ago. My consultants in the hand surgery told me it was the high sugar levels at that time.
Since starting insulin my glucose levels are controlled but the pain has started again. I also suffer from peripheral neuropathy.

Hi Diawara,
I had carpal tunnel surgeries on both hands and ulnar nerve decompression on the left elbow roughly five years ago. My consultants in the hand surgery told me it was the high sugar levels at that time.
Since starting insulin my glucose levels are controlled but the pain has started again. I also suffer from peripheral neuropathy.

@enzina i will mention to my physio when i go next time i did mention my diabetes was the reason for me being three stone lighter than the last time i saw him! probaly two years ago

 

[SimonCrox]

Agree with all above; could be ulnar neuropathy or one of the nerve roots (C8) being trapped; carpal tunnels are very common and the pain isn't always where one expects it. So nerve conduction studies to find out exactly what is going on seem sesnible and your GP should be able to request these.
Slightly different point; if pain from carpal tunnel wakes you at night, a splint overnight on the affected wrist helps some people greatly, and some folk get releif from injection in carpal tunnel, so might be able to avoid an operation (or might not). I would also check thryoid function in folk with CTS.
Best wishes

 

[Brunneria]

I had similar problems (numbness and tingling in left hand little finger and ring finger).
Chiropractor sorted it out in a single visit.
I still do a 'nerve threading' exercise that I found on you tube, that has been very helpful.

But prior to that I was more than a bit twitchy about neuropathy.
What set my mind at rest was doing a bit of googling on the subject. Particularly these links.
In my case the nerve was trapped up between the neck and the shoulder

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/disea...rapment-at-the-elbow-cubital-tunnel-syndrome/

Just seeing the lay of the nerve in the arm and how it exactly matched my symptoms, made it pretty clear that was the problem, rather than neuropathy:

https://www.kaleidoscopefightinglupus.org/peripheral-neuropathy/#3

 

[Metabolism_Boss]

Glycation of tendons and muscle can lead to thickening and stiffening, but it's tricky working out if a symptom of joint or muscular pain is the result of diabetes or something else. Soon after I was diagnosed I had an awful pain between my shoulder and mid upper arm and it went on for weeks. I was petrified that it was to do with my diabetes and that it was all downhill from there (I can get a bit dramatic). Then I had to prune my bay tree which was running riot. I used loppers a lot that afternoon, but it wasn't until I had a shower and could reach around to my back that I realised that the pain had gone. To my immense relief it never came back.

 

[There is no Spoon]

anyone else had similar?

Hi Diawara,
just getting over a bout of this and it's not so much that its painful, it's more that its constant it just wears you down.

If it's the same thing and sounds like it from your description it is caused by a herniated/ sliped disk in the neck which usual works it's self back into place in a couple of months with muscle relaxants to help from the GP.

When you find its painful/irritating try raising your arm up, putting the bicep against your ear, lay your forearm across you head and touching the other ear with your hand. This will take the pressure of the trapped nerve and give you some pain relief.

Another good tip to help with your recovery is to sleep on your back at night because sleeping on either side stretches the neck muscles and puts more strain on the injury.

Finally just to put your mind at rest this has nothing to do with diabetes it is not Diabetic Neuropathy.

 

[Diawara]

Hi Diawara,
just getting over a bout of this and it's not so much that its painful, it's more that its constant it just wears you down.

If it's the same thing and sounds like it from your description it is caused by a herniated/ sliped disk in the neck which usual works it's self back into place in a couple of months with muscle relaxants to help from the GP.

When you find its painful/irritating try raising your arm up, putting the bicep against your ear, lay your forearm across you head and touching the other ear with your hand. This will take the pressure of the trapped nerve and give you some pain relief.

Another good tip to help with your recovery is to sleep on your back at night because sleeping on either side stretches the neck muscles and puts more strain on the injury.

Finally just to put your mind at rest this has nothing to do with diabetes it is not Diabetic Neuropathy.

thany you @There is no Spoon and everyone...today the tingling is only from the elbow underside of the forearm to the tips of the little finger and the one next to it only ..... i will to the exercises described and also i still have some antrypylm 10 mg low dose prescribed for sciatica a year ago ill try that

 

[Diawara]

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I had similar problems (numbness and tingling in left hand little finger and ring finger).
Chiropractor sorted it out in a single visit.
I still do a 'nerve threading' exercise that I found on you tube, that has been very helpful.

But prior to that I was more than a bit twitchy about neuropathy.
What set my mind at rest was doing a bit of googling on the subject. Particularly these links.
In my case the nerve was trapped up between the neck and the shoulder

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/disea...rapment-at-the-elbow-cubital-tunnel-syndrome/

Just seeing the lay of the nerve in the arm and how it exactly matched my symptoms, made it pretty clear that was the problem, rather than neuropathy:

https://www.kaleidoscopefightinglupus.org/peripheral-neuropathy/#3

thanks @Brunneria i am trying exercise posted on youtube by dr jo nerve flossing