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Neuropathy & High BG readings early am

wurzel1010

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I've been officially diagnosed Type 2 for 3 years with Diet & Exercise as treatment.
Also got Osteoarthritis along spine due to accident at work. I've started experiencing problems such as loss of feeling in left foot(toes-picked up during Podiatry examination)Bladder/Bowel trouble & loss of sensation in side of face.
Following various hospital tests, MRI scans, Endoscopy etc, 2 consultants have stated in their opinion my problems are due to Diabetic Neuropathy. Both my GP & Diabetic Nurse say no, due to the short length of time since diagnosis.
Can anyone PLEASE offer some advice regarding this matter.
BG readings averaging 5.2 - 6.5. After meals 9.0 -11.4. Morning BG 0600h - 0900h 9.0 - 12.0 why???

Many thanks in anticipation
Wurzel1010
 
Hi Wurzel and welcome to the forum :) For your after meal readings, you need to look at what you eat. Carbohydrates will put your levels up. For early morning, this could be due to dawn phenomenon.
Here is a link which explains it:
http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/A ... henomenon/

As far as diet is concerned, you will find some information in this link written for new members which I hope you will find helpful, even though you are not newly diagnosed:

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Most people would say those levels are rather higher than they would be comfortable with.

I'd head off to your GP/Diabetic nurse and ask for some guidance, either medication or dietary (though you'll probably get better dietary advice here!) or referral to an endocrinologist.

best of luck.

mark.
 
Thanks for the response Mark.
Have found more detailed info from this site than in all the paperwork from GP/Diabetic Clinic.
Regards
Wurzel1010
 
A low carb diet should help.

3½ years ago after following the NHS/DUK diet conscientiously, neuropathy was becoming crippling.

I switched to low carb thanks to this forum, & in 3 months I was well & active again - & I still am.

My fasting reading averaged around 7 & is now below 6. HbA1c down from 6.8 to 6.1.
 
wurzel1010 said:
Following various hospital tests, MRI scans, Endoscopy etc, 2 consultants have stated in their opinion my problems are due to Diabetic Neuropathy. Both my GP & Diabetic Nurse say no, due to the short length of time since diagnosis.Wurzel1010

The 2 consultants are of course correct - sadly your GP and DN don't know their rear ends from their elbows. :roll:

I too had neuropathy long before I was diagnosed with T2. My diagnosis was a fluke; I went to A&E as I had pains in my kidneys, which I recognised as kidney stones, having had some removed previously and when they routinely took blood and urine samples from my they discovered sugar in my urine and a BG of 16.5

I was then told it is all too common for people like myself to go undetected with T2 for a couple of years at least.

Thankfully my neuropathy is well under control largely due to me taking regular high doses of Benfotamaine; which I would have no hesitation in recommending to anyone suffering extruciating neuropathy pains like I was
 
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