new and confused

amanda81

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hello im newly diagnosed and feel totally alone, confused and bloody petrified!! i was diagnosed after going to the doctor with thrush, she did a urine and finger prick test both of which showed high levels of sugar, a fasting blood test confirmed this. Im on 1500 of metformin a day and have all the rubbish side affects ( stomach pains, diahorria..sorry cant spell it ) I still have thrush and am suffering from tiredness i have noo energy, is this normal??? Ive cut out all the bad things from my diet and am eating a lot more healthily (although the only veg i like is potatoes and peas and I honeslty cant remember when I last had a piece of fruit!) im not hugely overweight just a bit chubby :) and have since lost more weight but I am finding it extremely hard to accept it all and the fact that my life is never going to be the same!
 

amanda81

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Re: new and cunfused

im reading lots of peoples questions and answers on here and its making me even more confused!!!! how do i measure my blood sugar levels do I need to ask for something off my doctor? and whats a normal reading??
 

xyzzy

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Re: new and cunfused

Hello Amanda

I'm sure Daisy will be along soon and post you the official "welcome pack."

Yep I'm only a bit chubby too but still have diabetes, being not hugely overweight doesn't change anything I'm afraid.

You've done the right thing coming here. I was only diagnosed a couple of months ago and now I feel so much better as I've got to understand about what's wrong and how I needed to change what I ate.

The good news is you can control your blood sugar levels and get them right back to nearly those of a non diabetic person, that wont cure you but it will put you back in control of your life and it will minimise the chances of bad things happening to your body because you are diabetic.

The bad news is that to do so means you have to accept a life style change and that's quite hard both to do and to accept.

Thrush, no energy yes that's normal and are strong indicators of high blood sugars. If you bring them down you will begin to feel better.

Like you I'm on Metformin. Some people like yourself have a reaction to it. Most people who do solve it by getting what's called the slow release (SR) version. Don't treat Metformin as a magic bullet. It does reduce your blood sugars (BG's) SLIGHTLY and helps with the "spikes" in BG after you eat. Some people like myself find that we get the bad reactions if we are eating the wrong things and its the Metformin's way of telling you "Don't eat that."

When you say "you have cut out all the bad things from your diet" what do you mean by bad?

To control your blood sugars you should be reducing your carbohydrates especially sugars which just are one form of carbohydrate and you also need to reduce "starchy" carbohydrates like rice, pasta, bread, pastry & potatoes. You should try and cut out all sugars (anything sweet) to start with at the moment and at least halve all the other foods I've listed. Instead eat meat, eggs, cheese and yes I'm afraid vegetables.

If you post back what your average diet is I'm sure lots of people will advise you on want is good and bad.

Good luck and keep asking questions.
 

Libbyloo

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Hi amanda81,
Welcome to the club that wouldn't be anybody's first choice to join. I'm sure someone will be along soon and post up lots of useful bits of information for you. It is a real shock to the system when you are first diagnosed, but keep reading bits and bobs on this site and you'll find lots of helpful stuff to help you get the hang of it.

I'm not sure if this the same for every surgery, but when I was initially diagnosed, the practice nurse who specialises in diabetes gave me a testing meter and some strips. My surgery also gave me strips on repeat prescription but I know a lot don't. I've since been diagnosed with type 1 (and am on insulin) so I now get them. Chemists also sell them and I've seen them at the pharmacy counter in Sainsbury's. There is a thread on this site which gives information on equipment. I use the Bayer contour testing device which comes with a lancet to prick your finger and a tub of testing strips. I bought a replacement online direct from Bayer when the first one broke. There is a thread on this page 'Basic information for newly diagnosed', so you may find that helpful


There's lots to take in and I'd suggest you take it bit by bit. It sounds like you're making a good start by trying to eat healthily and it's crucial to work out you blood sugar levels to get them to an acceptable level.

Although I'm aware that different people's diabetes is different, I was tired for quite some time. It may be a good idea to get an appointment with the GP or diabetic nurse at the surgery to talk through how you're feeling, especially about the side effects of metformin, tiredness, thrush etc.

Take Care and good luck

Libbyloo
 

daisy1

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Hi Amanda and welcome to the forum :) I see you have had a lot of good advice already. To supplement this, here is the information we give to new members and I hope it will be helpful. Ask as many questions as you like, as you see there are plenty of people here to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:-
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 

Grazer

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Hi Amanda and welcome! It's not as terrible as you think - lots of worse things out there! You'll soon get used to all the confusing stuff on diet, and I won't repeat the good advice above, but diet is absolutely KEY. So go easy on those carbs!
 

Gappy

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I was diagnosed a year ago and honestly right now I have happiness to spare if anyone needs it. I've got healthier and through this gained confidence and am currently really enjoying myself. Ok, i'm not doing everything I did before but you know what? I don't miss anything coz it's no big deal I can enjoy myself without pizza and chocolate. My cholesterol is down from 6.1 to 4.9 my hbawatsit is 5.6. I'm 3 and half stone lighter you can be healthy without a regime dominating your life so don't panic!