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New and out of control

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by janemarie71, Aug 26, 2015.

  1. janemarie71

    janemarie71 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum. I've been Type II for 10 years and am really struggling. My blood sugars have never been under control and it's getting progressively worse. I know what I should be doing with regard to lifestyle changes, but I just don't. Maybe I'm just rebelling because I hate being diabetic. I'm on medication and have probably taken EVERY possible medication available but I don't tolerate the medication very well. I'm at my wits end with trying to get myself in a good place to sort myself out. Am I just rubbish or is this something others struggle with too? Hope to hear from someone :)) xx
     
  2. DeejayR

    DeejayR Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Hi janemarie71 and welcome. This is a good place to sort yourself out with the help of some friendly people who know what you're talking about. You're not rubbish any more than any of us, just a normal person trying to make sense of an abnormal condition. I'll tag @daisy1 to give you her great guide to managing your diabetes and then you can ask lots of questions.
    If you haven't got a meter it would be a good idea to buy one to see how various foods affect your blood sugar.
    Be prepared for advice which goes against the NHS line, especially about eating low-carb and full or high fat.
    It's all part of taking control of your life :)
     
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  3. janemarie71

    janemarie71 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi @DeefayR thank you for your reply. I'm looking forward to finding out how other people deal with things.
     
  4. Jaylee

    Jaylee Type 1 · Expert
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    Hi @janemarie71

    I would second DeejayR on getting a meter. It helps you gauge, understand & ultimately control your blood trends day to day.
    An incentive in itself to take action on your health.

    Why wait months between check ups to find out what's going on..? I empathise that it can be easy to get lost along the way between appointments without a meter...
    There are plenty of Ideas from other T2s who've created low carb recipes to keep the blood under control too!

    Lol I'm actually T1 myself, but quite often find myself referring to other Ds dietary advice! :cool:

    A hearty welcome, by the way... :)
     
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  5. purplepenguin

    purplepenguin Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @janemarie71 , Welcome.

    Your situation sounds very much like my own up until very recently. I buried my head in the sand for a long time but I finally realised that if I did that, I'd likely be dead at a very early age.
    I started Dr Bernstein's diet a week ago and am already seeing the benefits. I'd thoroughly recommend a low carb, higher fat diet, but be prepared to feel **** for a while until your body gets used to lower sugar levels. It's not easy but I find thinking of the consequences of poor sugars keeps me on track.
    Most definitely get yourself a meter and test, test, test. I'd advise asking your doctor which one they will give you strips for as my meter is no longer supported by my healthcare trust.
    If you would like someone to support you and to talk to, please feel free to contact me
     
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  6. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @janemarie71

    Hello Janemarie and welcome to the forum :) In addition to the valuable advice you have received from other members, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially the advice on diet. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
     
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  7. ButtterflyLady

    ButtterflyLady Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome. I didn't "get with the program" for about 2 years after diagnosis, (about 2 years ago) then I decided to make changes, and I lost 7 stone in a year. Within a few months of starting the changes I got my blood glucose levels into the non diabetic range. I have since slipped a little and am restarting healthy eating patterns again.

    If you make similar changes the good news is you might not need diabetes medications... which would be ideal, since you don't tolerate them very well. :)

    I have found the best thing to do after making such as decision is to draw a line under the past and let it go. Don't beat yourself up about what you have and haven't done. Tomorrow is a new day and only the present and future matter.
     
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  8. janemarie71

    janemarie71 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi Jaylee, thanks for taking the time to respond. I do have a meter and test daily. It's really my diet that I struggle with and finding medication that does the job and that I don't react to. It's interesting reading about carbs - I live on carbs virtually - probably where I'm going wrong. Thanks again :)
     
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  9. janemarie71

    janemarie71 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi Purplepenguin, that's kind of where I'm at. I've buried my head in the sand for a long time and have realised the implications of doing this! I haven't heard of Dr. Bernsteins diet but it sounds like you're getting on ok with it. I have got a meter, I'm just rubbish at doing what I need to do to control my diabetes. It's really helpful reading what you guys have to say. Thank you! :)
     
  10. janemarie71

    janemarie71 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi Daisy, this is really helpful! Thank you so much! I'm going to read up on the whole carb thing. I'm feeling more positive about attacking my blood sugars already. :)
     
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