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<blockquote data-quote="JoKalsbeek" data-source="post: 2276927" data-attributes="member: 401801"><p>It's not just okay if you ask more questions, it's actually quite good. So far you've learned weetabix isn't the best choice, neither is milk, apples etc... <em>You're making progress.</em> You can't learn all this stuff overnight and don't expect yourself to never stumble. lord knows I've made plenty of mistakes, but you learn from them and move on. You have a blood sugar spike, it goes away, and the next day you have another chance to get it right. No-one's going to flick a ruler at your fingers when you estimate something wrong. Also, can you begin to imagine just how many carbs you were putting away before you started cutting out sugars? If the stuff you eat now is still carb-heavy, how much worse was it before? You're gaining ground here.</p><p></p><p>Couple of comments that might help: Forget sugar. Cutting down to 10 to 20% isn't going to do much good. Depending on what you use the stuff for, you might want to switch to stevia, an erythritol/stevia mix or some other sweetener. Stevia is plant-based, erythritol is a sugar alcohol, and those are safe to use. (Maltitol and sorbitol can have some gastro-intestilan consequences, but in moderation, they're fine). Xylitol comes closest to sugar, but is poison to fur babies, alas. I don't have it in the house. Artificial sweeteners are poisonous to your own gut bacteria, and you need those to function, so only use those sparingly. (They're in diet soda's and the like too.) If you could wean yourself off, that'd be even better. But that's the sugar covered.</p><p></p><p>Metformin doesn't do anything about what you eat, besides a little hunger reduction... It just tells your liver to knock it off with the glucose dumps in the morning. (Up to 75% decrease). It's not a medication you want to depend on to cover your meals, because that's basically not what it's for, and it won't. That'd be either diet, or medication like gliclazide or insulin.</p><p></p><p>Milk contains milk sugars, but if you went for full fat, that was the best choice you could make. If you can switch to cream (unsweetened) for your tea/coffee for instance, or double cream, that'd be good.</p><p></p><p>Carbs you want to avoid: All cereal, bread-related products (anything made with grain/wheat/oats/corn flours), pasta, rice, corn, and such... And yeah, that does include bulgur and couscous, sorry. Maybe cauliflower rice can do the trick? Celeriac? Also, ditch the fruit save for berries. If you go for strawberries, -which you can incidentally toss into water for flavour- have them with some nice, decadent cream. Or even clotted cream. (Manna from heaven, that!). The fat in the cream will flatten the curve a bit when it comes to the slight amount of sugars in the strawberries, or any berry really, so you don't spike hard. As for breakfast, eggs and bacon are a good plan. You can add some variety by having high meat content sausages (Hecks I think is a suitable brand out there?) , have a tomato, mushrooms... I often have a chunk of deep frozen salmon and make a scrambled egg with it (keeps my vitamin d up to par), or same, but with a can of tuna. Tuna'll also do well as a leafy green's salad with capers, olives, mayo, pepper and salt. Remember, if you have a salad, check the dressing (a lot of them are sugary or contain honey. In a restaurant, just ask for olive oil or mayo, at home, mayo, olive oil or apple cider vinegar will work well), and also make sure there's something fatty in it, because just leafy greens will leave you hungry.. A warmed goat's cheese salad, salade nicoise, tuna, salmon, or instead of fats, protein in the form of carpaccio.... Just make sure there's something in there that'll fill you up. And no croutons! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p> </p><p>Going over your meals yesterday: Water and tea are fine. Coffee with cream would be too.The weetabix obviously wasn't, and you had some underground veggies with your lunch, which isn't preferable... The beef was perfection, but carrots and onions weren't. The greek yoghurt, was it full fat? Because that'd be best, if it's low fat it's carbier. Nuts are mostly fine, though cashews, almonds and peanuts are a bit high. Pecans, walnuts and brazil nuts are best. And no apples... That right there was about <em>45 grams</em> of sugar.</p><p></p><p>Eggs, meat, fish, poultry, above ground veggies/leafy greens, cheeses, full fat greek yoghurt, cream/double cream/clotted cream, mushrooms, olives, tea, coffee, water etc are all good... I'm probably forgetting a few but I always refer people to the Nutritional Thingy nowadays so I don't have the routine in typing it all out anymore, haha. Oh, the almond milk might be okay, might not be.... I find that milk replacements are often sweetened, and if they're not, they're about the same amount of carbs as proper milk would have, so a bit of a let-down, that. </p><p></p><p>Hope that helped.</p><p>Jo</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoKalsbeek, post: 2276927, member: 401801"] It's not just okay if you ask more questions, it's actually quite good. So far you've learned weetabix isn't the best choice, neither is milk, apples etc... [I]You're making progress.[/I] You can't learn all this stuff overnight and don't expect yourself to never stumble. lord knows I've made plenty of mistakes, but you learn from them and move on. You have a blood sugar spike, it goes away, and the next day you have another chance to get it right. No-one's going to flick a ruler at your fingers when you estimate something wrong. Also, can you begin to imagine just how many carbs you were putting away before you started cutting out sugars? If the stuff you eat now is still carb-heavy, how much worse was it before? You're gaining ground here. Couple of comments that might help: Forget sugar. Cutting down to 10 to 20% isn't going to do much good. Depending on what you use the stuff for, you might want to switch to stevia, an erythritol/stevia mix or some other sweetener. Stevia is plant-based, erythritol is a sugar alcohol, and those are safe to use. (Maltitol and sorbitol can have some gastro-intestilan consequences, but in moderation, they're fine). Xylitol comes closest to sugar, but is poison to fur babies, alas. I don't have it in the house. Artificial sweeteners are poisonous to your own gut bacteria, and you need those to function, so only use those sparingly. (They're in diet soda's and the like too.) If you could wean yourself off, that'd be even better. But that's the sugar covered. Metformin doesn't do anything about what you eat, besides a little hunger reduction... It just tells your liver to knock it off with the glucose dumps in the morning. (Up to 75% decrease). It's not a medication you want to depend on to cover your meals, because that's basically not what it's for, and it won't. That'd be either diet, or medication like gliclazide or insulin. Milk contains milk sugars, but if you went for full fat, that was the best choice you could make. If you can switch to cream (unsweetened) for your tea/coffee for instance, or double cream, that'd be good. Carbs you want to avoid: All cereal, bread-related products (anything made with grain/wheat/oats/corn flours), pasta, rice, corn, and such... And yeah, that does include bulgur and couscous, sorry. Maybe cauliflower rice can do the trick? Celeriac? Also, ditch the fruit save for berries. If you go for strawberries, -which you can incidentally toss into water for flavour- have them with some nice, decadent cream. Or even clotted cream. (Manna from heaven, that!). The fat in the cream will flatten the curve a bit when it comes to the slight amount of sugars in the strawberries, or any berry really, so you don't spike hard. As for breakfast, eggs and bacon are a good plan. You can add some variety by having high meat content sausages (Hecks I think is a suitable brand out there?) , have a tomato, mushrooms... I often have a chunk of deep frozen salmon and make a scrambled egg with it (keeps my vitamin d up to par), or same, but with a can of tuna. Tuna'll also do well as a leafy green's salad with capers, olives, mayo, pepper and salt. Remember, if you have a salad, check the dressing (a lot of them are sugary or contain honey. In a restaurant, just ask for olive oil or mayo, at home, mayo, olive oil or apple cider vinegar will work well), and also make sure there's something fatty in it, because just leafy greens will leave you hungry.. A warmed goat's cheese salad, salade nicoise, tuna, salmon, or instead of fats, protein in the form of carpaccio.... Just make sure there's something in there that'll fill you up. And no croutons! ;) Going over your meals yesterday: Water and tea are fine. Coffee with cream would be too.The weetabix obviously wasn't, and you had some underground veggies with your lunch, which isn't preferable... The beef was perfection, but carrots and onions weren't. The greek yoghurt, was it full fat? Because that'd be best, if it's low fat it's carbier. Nuts are mostly fine, though cashews, almonds and peanuts are a bit high. Pecans, walnuts and brazil nuts are best. And no apples... That right there was about [I]45 grams[/I] of sugar. Eggs, meat, fish, poultry, above ground veggies/leafy greens, cheeses, full fat greek yoghurt, cream/double cream/clotted cream, mushrooms, olives, tea, coffee, water etc are all good... I'm probably forgetting a few but I always refer people to the Nutritional Thingy nowadays so I don't have the routine in typing it all out anymore, haha. Oh, the almond milk might be okay, might not be.... I find that milk replacements are often sweetened, and if they're not, they're about the same amount of carbs as proper milk would have, so a bit of a let-down, that. Hope that helped. Jo [/QUOTE]
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