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Helsin

Well-Known Member
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150
Location
Cirencester
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi. I'm newly diagnosed following blood tests for a completely different problem (possible IBS). Have had my first appointment with the diabetes nurse, where I was too clueless to know that I should have written all these incomprehensible numbers down. She told me that there was no need to self-monitor my blood glucose and was also quite anti my intention to try a lchf diet, which, I think, would suit me best, given my current problems with fibre. Any tips?
 
Hi Helsin, welcome.

I seem to be in a small minority who don't get quick session with the DN! Still got 10 days to go.

On the numbers, I would suggest contacting the surgery and asking for a full print out of the blood test results. When diagnosed I was the same as you and didn't know an HbA1c from an HDL, but as soon as I came on here I made sure I went back and found out. I gather some surgeries are reluctant to hand the full results out, demand if necessary.

They all seem to say no need to test unless you are T1, but how are you supposed to know how your blood reacts to different foods otherwise. So, assuming you are T2, get one anyway (e.g. SD Codefree from Amazon - other suppliers are available) and don't take that advice (or indeed any advice from the GP or DN) at face value.

Everyone starts off confused, but you've done the best thing by coming on here and asking.
 
Hi Sanguine (is that your nature?). My user name should maybe be flippant. I irritated the nurse when she was telling me about a group I would be invited to and I said 'That sounds like AA. Will there be biscuits?' I should add that not a biscuit has passed my lips since diagnosis. I see the doctor tomorrow for the IBS problem, so can get my numbers then.
 
Hi helsin. I eat LCHF and have lost 1 stone 10lbs.
Here are some tips:
www.dietdoctor.com gives a very comprehensive explanation of LCHF and is written by a doc in Sweden who specialises in obesity and diabetes so not just some random theory promoted by an unqualified professional.
Your HCP is always going to give you the NHS healthy plate model. It gets it's advice from www.diabetes.org.uk. - many of us do not follow this but it's up to you.
You can get all prescriptions free if you are on meds for diabetes. Please ask your receptionist. It is worth filling the form, which has to be filled out by your doc, there and then.
You should get an eye test once a year for free - doc should refer you.
You should get your feet checked regularly.
There is a published article by southport GP somewhere. I have a copy but can't upload it but handr was the poster. You could ask southport GP . Will look for you now but if I lose this thread you know where to look if I don't come back.
Hope this helps.
 
Hi helsin. I eat LCHF and have lost 1 stone 10lbs.
Here are some tips:
www.dietdoctor.com gives a very comprehensive explanation of LCHF and is written by a doc in Sweden who specialises in obesity and diabetes so not just some random theory promoted by an unqualified professional.
Your HCP is always going to give you the NHS healthy plate model. It gets it's advice from www.diabetes.org.uk. - many of us do not follow this but it's up to you.
You can get all prescriptions free if you are on meds for diabetes. Please ask your receptionist. It is worth filling the form, which has to be filled out by your doc, there and then.
You should get an eye test once a year for free - doc should refer you.
You should get your feet checked regularly.
There is a published article by southport GP somewhere. I have a copy but can't upload it but handr was the poster. You could ask southport GP . Will look for you now but if I lose this thread you know where to look if I don't come back.
Hope this helps.
Go into the thread sent to NICE then you can get copy of doc.
Hope this helps!
 
Hi Helsin and welcome to the forum:)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. Yes, do get hold of a meter and do reduce the carbs. You don't need to high fat but have enough protein and fat to give you the overall calories you need; veg of course is always good. As others have said, you have a right to your results so do ask reception or see the DN again.
 
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