Can anyone help me with side-effects? Dont know if it`s coincidence, but I get really short of breath and have terrible pain in my lower back. around my kidney area!!! This is freaking me out too(
Hi B. I believe I expressed my opinion clearly about my belief that type 2 is a curable condition. I am sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable but I stand by it. By expressing it I am NOT offering magical panaceas or false solutions to any persons. I am merely pointing out that enough evidence exists to suggest that the science connected to the conventional prescribed treatments for type 2 has been shown to be seriously flawed. These are not voices in the wilderness. This also offers much more hope to newly diagnosed people than the conventional claims that the condition is invariably chronic and progressive. Some people may be unable or unwilling to explore beyond the boundaries of what conventional medicine proclaims as sound treatment for this condition. Some may have to rely or want to rely on medication to attempt to control the illness. Fair enough. But suggesting that there are ways to completely reverse type 2 diabetes is not giving people false hope, especially with the mounting evidence to suggest that this can be accomplished. I am aware that curlynurse has not yet been diagnosed. The absence of a diagnosis at this stage of her concerns does not in any way provide a context to make the views expressed in my opinion unhelpful or misleading. We are all affected differently by this condition - something I think I made clear in my comments. We also take control of it as individuals. My intention here was to reassure and support someone who expressed fear and dismayI am VERY uncomfortable with you claiming that T2 is 'curable' - especially to a new poster, who is not even officially diagnosed.
The debate on whether T2 is curable has been hammered out on this forum ad nauseum, and re-starting that debate here would derail this thread.
However, to make sweeping statements like that is misleading and unhelpful in this context. Offering hope is great. Announcing cures is not.
Hello South beds. Do you fast intermittently or at all? I think you're very wise not to do anything blindly.
- I follow a LC/HF life but not blindly,
Hi B. I believe I expressed my opinion clearly about my belief that type 2 is a curable condition. I am sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable but I stand by it. By expressing it I am NOT offering magical panaceas or false solutions to any persons. I am merely pointing out that enough evidence exists to suggest that the science connected to the conventional prescribed treatments for type 2 has been shown to be seriously flawed. These are not voices in the wilderness. This also offers much more hope to newly diagnosed people than the conventional claims that the condition is invariably chronic and progressive. Some people may be unable or unwilling to explore beyond the boundaries of what conventional medicine proclaims as sound treatment for this condition. Some may have to rely or want to rely on medication to attempt to control the illness. Fair enough. But suggesting that there are ways to completely reverse type 2 diabetes is not giving people false hope, especially with the mounting evidence to suggest that this can be accomplished. I am aware that curlynurse has not yet been diagnosed. The absence of a diagnosis at this stage of her concerns does not in any way provide a context to make the views expressed in my opinion unhelpful or misleading. We are all affected differently by this condition - something I think I made clear in my comments. We also take control of it as individuals. My intention here was to reassure and support someone who expressed fear and dismay
Fair enough B. You are objecting to nothing more then the expressionMy objection to your post was because of its inappropriateness in the context of this thread.
We all want a cure.
Some of us believe it already exists.
Others believe the evidence is not conclusive, and only applicable to some type 2s, not all.
I would be very sorry if this irrelevant discussion puts curlynurse off the forum, or interferes with her getting the support she needs at the moment. She has other concerns than your belief in a cure, at the moment.
How are you doing, @curlynurse ?
I suppose Mike, it depends on how you understand and define what is meant by the term"cure" in connection with type 2. There is no need to get obsessed with anything here. It is helpful to offer people hope - not false hope - but hope, for without that there can be no endeavor. Some people disagree about this. Just as some people, like you and I for instance, disagree that type 2 cannot be cured at the moment. The scientific community and doctors disagree on matters connected with type 2. In light of this I find it difficult to understand what you mean when you say definitively that there is no cure at the moment. I can only suppose that you mean conventional medical opinion supports the view that you espouse here. But please remember that the proponents of this view also advised people to eat foods that made the condition worse instead of better for many years. Do you suppose it is correct simply because it is accepted and conventional? I don't. I don't know or assume what other people are obsessed with or feeling, but I am seeing that some seem to be more comfortable expressing their own thoughts and feelings ostensibly on behalf of others.People (especially newbies) get obsessed with the comment "cure" For the time being, there is none. Control, yes. Back to your normal life? No.
So as my title says, Im in denial. Havent been to dr`s yet, but checked my urine in work on monday, as I thought I had urine infection, and had 5+++++ of glucose!!! I then did my BM, it was 15.5mmol!! Im a nurse, so was able to test myself. My BM this am, before any food was 11.1mmol. Im scared, [etrified, I know I need to go to doc`s, but I refuse to be a diabetic!!! Did anyone else feel like this????
No, i just use LC/HF never been hungeryHello South beds. Do you fast intermittently or at all? I think you're very wise not to do anything blindly.
I did, but he was useless, wasnt my own gp, just one of the doc`s I work with, said if I just drink lots of water, I will be fine, I went to eat an orange, he said "noooooooo, too much sugar!!", going to own gp am. can I ask you something? My right arm seems to me swollen and painful, from the shoulder, down to elbow. do you think its just coincidence?Hi @curlynurse, just wanted to check how you are doing? Did you manage to speak to a dr yesterday?
I had a swollen arm before I was diagnosed. It was brushed off with snti-inflammatory. I too was worried and knew my body wasnt right. I called an ambulance thinking I had a clot. I got myself in a right state. Anti-inflammatories worked.I did, but he was useless, wasnt my own gp, just one of the doc`s I work with, said if I just drink lots of water, I will be fine, I went to eat an orange, he said "noooooooo, too much sugar!!", going to own gp am. can I ask you something? My right arm seems to me swollen and painful, from the shoulder, down to elbow. do you think its just coincidence?
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Welcome to the forum!Hello, Yeah, im definately diabetic!!!! I knew it was coming eventually. My dad has type 2 and Im so like my dad, its un-real. I have polysystic ovaries too, so these things combined, I knew it would come one day...........x
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