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Prediabetes New patient with pre diabetes

Dazzy1

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Giid evening folkes.
A quick question please just had some blood tests done and I'm at high risk of type 2. Taking metformin 500 1 per day last two days and I feel great. Is this nirmal or in the mind :)
After a week I'll tske 1 am and 1 p.m.. then have more blood tests in a month or 2 I guess.

I'm going be reading alot on here but any advice would be greatly appreciated.

They told me at chemist that I should get metformin now for free too. Is this correct? I'm full time employed so how's it possible?
Thank you so much
Darren
 
Giid evening folkes.
A quick question please just had some blood tests done and I'm at high risk of type 2. Taking metformin 500 1 per day last two days and I feel great. Is this nirmal or in the mind :)
After a week I'll tske 1 am and 1 p.m.. then have more blood tests in a month or 2 I guess.

I'm going be reading alot on here but any advice would be greatly appreciated.

They told me at chemist that I should get metformin now for free too. Is this correct? I'm full time employed so how's it possible?
Thank you so much
Darren

Hi. I'm not sure how it works elsewhere in the UK, but here in Scotland prescriptions are free. It does seem to me that you have been put on Metformin pretty early..as you say you are "at risk of Type 2"...but I guess we all differ. Personally, I wish more doctors would advise people to try alter their diet first to see how that works for them before prescribing meds...but then I guess it depends on the individual and how high their readings are. Not everyone agrees...but a lot of us have reduced our blood sugar through diet alone (mainly low carbohydrate diets). That said, there are other benefits to Metformin and many are happy on that drug if they have none of the side-effects associated (particularly stomach issues) and at least your doctor has acted quickly. I suggest you at least cut sugary rubbish from your diet and cut back at least a little on foods like bread and cereal, spuds and pasta..and see how your reading is for your next test. Meantime, maybe look around this site at threads on self-testing meters and low carb diets and anything else you are curious about. I would say that while I hope things improve..it is always best to be informed.
 
Hi @Dazzy1 .. and welcome
Whether you are diagnosed diabetic or prediabetic, all your prescriptions are free. That said, you have certainly made a good move coming here .. since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes (or prediabetes) through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Unless you are given one by your Doc or Nurse (unlikely), it is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £29.49
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £58.98
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 4 or 5 times a day, before meals and two hours afterwards .. this enables me to monitor trends over time and to check which (if any) foods give me "spikes" .. some folk also test their fasting blood sugar. Testing costs me around £10 to £12 a month but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can manage them.

Hope this helps
 
Hi there and welcome to the forum. I am one of the lucky ones for whom Metformin causes no side effects.
Some people cannot tolerate it at all and for some people the slow release version is a gentler alternative.
Yes, your prescriptions are now free even if they are not Diabetes related as Metformin is used in the treatment and because you will now be recorded as being in the Diabetes range. You will be able to apply for a medical exemption certificate which you just show at the pharmacy and Bob's your Auntie.
 
Hi and welcome to this forum

The main message you should take away with you is that diabetes is bad news. It is bad news no matter how you look at it, introducing a higher risk of severe health issues and shortened life expectancy.

And once you have it you are stuck with it. Best any diabetic can do is manage his condition not get rid of it.

You are not yet diabetic. Being at risk of diabetes is not the same as having diabetes.

So now is the time to take matters into your own hands and make the necessary lifestyle changes, better diet, more exercise, sheding excess weight to ensure you keep diabetes away. As an added bonus you will be living a healthier lifestyle and feeling better for it.

Metformin is a great medicine if you can tolerate it, I have been on it ever since diagnosis 8 years ago with no adverse effect, but do not overestimate its effectiveness in lowering glucose. The effect of the lifestyle changes would be much greater. Making the mistake of taking the pills and then carrying on with a high carb diet would probably be catastrophic.

Carbs (bread, cereals, pasta, potatoes, rice) not just sugar are responsible for raising our glucose levels. Most of us on this forum find that in order to control our glucose levels we have to restrict our carb intake to a greater or lesser extent depending on the individual. You may well find that you have to do the same.

How do we know what quantity of carbs to consume. Most of us "eat to our meter". We test our blood before and two hours after each meal and aim for the later count to be within 2mmol of the earlier. If this target is not met then the meal was too carb heavy and we need to make adjustment the next time we have it. Thus we learn through trial and error. With experience less testing is necessary as we learn how food affects us personally.

Although, I appreciate that you are not diabetic and would have to bear the cost of testing personally (strips can be expensive) I would highly recommend that you do test, so that you gain the feedback to make informed changes about your meal choices.

Consider it an investment in your health.
 
@Dazzy1

Hello Darren and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Thank you so much for your prompt replies the info provided is much appreciated. Seems alot to take in at the moment with numbers flying all over the place but I'm guessing I'll soon get used to blood glucose readings what's normal and what's not. Thank you . I'm sure I'll hab e many more questions. A nurse will be calling me Monday to arrange an appointment to speak about it.
 
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