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Ron_D

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Hello all,

I have this week been told I am Pre Diabetic, my GP has referred me to a specialist to discuss my diet and what I will need to do to prevent it developing into full blown diabetics, whilst I was waiting I found this forum, any advice/ help greatly appreciated.

I have downloaded the recipes available, would I be correct in thinking reducing carbs would be a big help? What else would I need to be careful about? I have never been a cake/ sweet type of person, I mainly eat savouries but I am now thinking pies, sausage rolls, pork pies etc are now off the agenda (my weakness) when we go out to eat I normally only have a main course, occasionally a starter and extremely rarer a sweet. I do like a nice rare steak, are these ok?

Thanks in advance

Ron
 
Look for the 10 week low carb diet challenge. It's a series of videos and advice. It's free. I found it helpful to get started.
 
Hello all,

I have this week been told I am Pre Diabetic, my GP has referred me to a specialist to discuss my diet and what I will need to do to prevent it developing into full blown diabetics, whilst I was waiting I found this forum, any advice/ help greatly appreciated.

I have downloaded the recipes available, would I be correct in thinking reducing carbs would be a big help? What else would I need to be careful about? I have never been a cake/ sweet type of person, I mainly eat savouries but I am now thinking pies, sausage rolls, pork pies etc are now off the agenda (my weakness) when we go out to eat I normally only have a main course, occasionally a starter and extremely rarer a sweet. I do like a nice rare steak, are these ok?

Thanks in advance

Ron
The fillings of the pies, sausage rolls etc (i.e. the nice bits) would probably be ok... just ditch the pastry but the steak would certainly be fine..
 
Hello all,

I have this week been told I am Pre Diabetic, my GP has referred me to a specialist to discuss my diet and what I will need to do to prevent it developing into full blown diabetics, whilst I was waiting I found this forum, any advice/ help greatly appreciated.

I have downloaded the recipes available, would I be correct in thinking reducing carbs would be a big help? What else would I need to be careful about? I have never been a cake/ sweet type of person, I mainly eat savouries but I am now thinking pies, sausage rolls, pork pies etc are now off the agenda (my weakness) when we go out to eat I normally only have a main course, occasionally a starter and extremely rarer a sweet. I do like a nice rare steak, are these ok?

Thanks in advance

Ron

Welcome to the forums @Ron_D ,

Lets tag @daisy1 who will hopefully be able to send you some advice to get you started.

You can also click in the links in any moderator's signature area to find further info.

Basically, you need to start thinking about carbohydrates (sugar is a simple carbohydrate) as all carbohydrates turn into glucose in the body. Rice, potato, bread and pasta are things that often affect us badly so try to reduce your portion sizes when eating these. As for your weakness for pastries, I'm sorry to say that you'll have to watch out for these as well, the meaty part of the contents are fine but the pastry itself and any filler (often potato) are not great.

When reading food labels, look at the total carbohydrate content and not the 'of which sugars' bit as this is not relevant. Start a food diary and evaluate your carbohydrate intake. The government's recommended guideline is 250/260g per day depending on which website you look at. Many forum members are eating much less than this but you'll need to decide what's the right amount for you as we all different.

Good luck, and please come back and ask more questions if you need to.
 
@Ron_D

Hello Ron and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. You are right in thinking that carbs need to be restricted (see link to the Low Carb Program in my signature) Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hi @Ron_D , welcome to the forum. I was diagnosed with prediabetes 6 years ago and I'm so glad I found this forum or I am sure things would have got worse for me.

I found cutting the carbs worked for me over a low fat diet suggested by my surgery which does work for others.

Do read around the forum, learn about diabetes and your lab test results. Feel free to ask questions.
 
Hello all,

I have this week been told I am Pre Diabetic, my GP has referred me to a specialist to discuss my diet and what I will need to do to prevent it developing into full blown diabetics, whilst I was waiting I found this forum, any advice/ help greatly appreciated.

I have downloaded the recipes available, would I be correct in thinking reducing carbs would be a big help? What else would I need to be careful about? I have never been a cake/ sweet type of person, I mainly eat savouries but I am now thinking pies, sausage rolls, pork pies etc are now off the agenda (my weakness) when we go out to eat I normally only have a main course, occasionally a starter and extremely rarer a sweet. I do like a nice rare steak, are these ok?

Thanks in advance

Ron
When I went to see the nurse I was given bad advice which even contradicted what the doctor said. i.e. eat potato's, rice, pasta, etc. The dietitian was better, she said official advice is to just eat healthy food hence what the nurse was saying but agreed (unofficially) that a low carb diet was going to be best for me.
Steak /Chicken /any meat with above ground veg, i.e. not potato's, parsnips, turnips etc, think broccoli, cauliflower, is what I've been mainly having for dinner. www.dietdoctor.com has some good recipe idea's.
 
Hello all,

I have this week been told I am Pre Diabetic, my GP has referred me to a specialist to discuss my diet and what I will need to do to prevent it developing into full blown diabetics, whilst I was waiting I found this forum, any advice/ help greatly appreciated.

I have downloaded the recipes available, would I be correct in thinking reducing carbs would be a big help? What else would I need to be careful about? I have never been a cake/ sweet type of person, I mainly eat savouries but I am now thinking pies, sausage rolls, pork pies etc are now off the agenda (my weakness) when we go out to eat I normally only have a main course, occasionally a starter and extremely rarer a sweet. I do like a nice rare steak, are these ok?

Thanks in advance

Ron
Hu Ron,
Welcome to the forum! I'm just curious- do you exercise regularly? Are you on any meds? Diet and exercise are a large part of managing your prediabetes state and tipping your BG levels the other way. I am in the process now. It started with taking a look at my cardiovascular health and I've really been able to improve some things .
 
Good morning all,

Many thanks for the advice, I have a LOT of reading to do! I also take Simvastatin and Liprinasol and do not exercise as much as I should due to lower back problems that make it difficult to stand or walk for long periods, however, I do try to walk a little during the day, other than what I would class as normal (I try to go for a short walk daily other than my normal moving about)

I thought for my initial reading Carbs might be a problem, I like potatoes, pasta and rice :(

Can I ask, would a typical cooked meal be meat and veg (Broccoli, Sprouts, Carrots, Cauliflower etc) Are carrots ok?

I have downloaded the booklet for the low carb diet to start me off, well actually to help my Wife really as she cooks most of the food in our house.

Thanks again everyone, I will be back when I have had a read :) and I am sure I will have lots of questions from time to time.

Ron
 
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