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It looks like the study relates to in hospital deaths, so has looked only at those who developed symptoms serious enough to be admitted to hospital, not at overall risk.
NoWhat does it mean what’s the mortality rate for 40 years old with hb1ac around 6 does it shed any light on this ???
This one looks at increased deaths (in any setting) in diabetes https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conte...D-19-and-Diabetes-Paper-2-Full-Manuscript.pdfIt looks like the study relates to in hospital deaths, so has looked only at those who developed symptoms serious enough to be admitted to hospital, not at overall risk.
Not explicitly... Unless you're a whiz at hazard ratios, which I'm not. But it more or less says its very low!What does it mean what’s the mortality rate for 40 years old with hb1ac around 6 does it shed any light on this ???
I'd advise reading the paper rather than the takeaways from the article. Not saying what you've stated is incorrect but it puts those figures into some context.Hi there
Anyone just read this. In the Guardian today that if you are type 1 and get Covid19 you are 3. 5 times more likely to die than a type 2 who is twice as likely.
At least there is some separation at last.
Stay safe
Actually JamieI'd advise reading the paper rather than the takeaways from the article. Not saying what you've stated is incorrect but it puts those figures into some context.
In that case my apologies. My tone wasn't intended to be short. Text can often misrepresent. It was just more a criticism of newspapers and their headlines sometimes!Actually Jamie
I did read the whole of the article but short of stating at length what we already know about other underlying conditions etc.
I just wished to raise the point that at last someone has separated type 1 from type 2 diabetes.
Thanks JamieIn that case my apologies. My tone wasn't intended to be short. Text can often misrepresent. It was just more a criticism of newspapers and their headlines sometimes!
I'm totally disappointed with the Guardian on this - i feel like its such scare mongering with little analysis on the data. And people with T1 left feeling just as confused as before... I'm glad i've read the latest report posted at the top f this thread - thanks for postingActually Jamie
I did read the whole of the article but short of stating at length what we already know about other underlying conditions etc.
I just wished to raise the point that at last someone has separated type 1 from type 2 diabetes.
Agreed but I think it needs to be established that the overall risk in some groups is small... Not non existent. Eg if I am under 20 my risk may be 3.5 times that of someone under 20 without diabetes but that is 3.5 times an already very very small number.. So much so that no deaths have been recorded in diabetics under 20 years of age.I note that whenever some 'new' article is published in relation to this, there is a lot of 'well, what about' and sometimes denial of ANY extra risk that may be present as someone with diabetes, etc. There is no way every single question can be answered as to the risks (whether diabetes or any other condition) but I think it's fair to say they have established that having diabetes makes the general risk higher. Of course those with good management are likely to be at less risk but that doesn't take away the fact their risk is still very likely (but certainly not inevitable) to be higher than a person exactly the same as them but without diabetes. It's hardly a new concept after all, that's why we have the flu jab and regular check ups on feet, eyes, kidneys, liver etc, why would this particular strain be any different?
Hi there
Anyone just read this. In the Guardian today that if you are type 1 and get Covid19 you are 3. 5 times more likely to die than a type 2 who is twice as likely.
At least there is some separation at last.
Stay safe
Agreed but I think it needs to be established that the overall risk in some groups is small... Not non existent. Eg if I am under 20 my risk may be 3.5 times that of someone under 20 without diabetes but that is 3.5 times an already very very small number.. So much so that no deaths have been recorded in diabetics under 20 years of age.
Media need to place it into context. Not everyone will be using forums such as this or delving into the depths of a medical report.