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New T2 Veggie

DianaRose

Active Member
Messages
37
Location
Bridgwater
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Alcohol, walking on stoney ground, cutting the grass,politicians in general!
Hi, I was diagnosed on Christmas Eve with a BG of 15 and that HBac thingie of 11%( I think) Cholesterol was slightly high at 6 but BP was normal. To say I was shocked was an understatement as 3 weeks previously I had been told I was borderline at BG 7.7...anyway the diabetic nurse who was very overweight( and told me to loose weight!) was an absolute dragon. She reeled all this stuff about courses and that my next appointment would be in 3 weeks...and that was it!! Nothing about diet,testing BG, what it meant, what I could do to help myself nothing! I admit I need to loose about a stone and she told me that I had probably had T2 for about 6 months also my Dad had it and one of my sisters has it. I am a carer for my husband who has cancer. He has multiple myeloma and is held together with titanium rods and is not very mobile so I have to be fit to look after him. So i rejoined the gym and started up swimming again cut my carbs down to 100, bought a testing kit have been out walking - yesterday I walked 7 kilometres. Basically I want to be in control and not the medics in control of me. I take 500 mg of metformin once a day - which was optional but I thought what the heck let's give it a kickstart!! So now my BG after 3 weeks is down to 9 mostly. I have noticed that some enteric coated tablets send my BG sky high I think they are coated in sugar and have lactose. I wondered if anyone else had that problem. I have to visit the old dragon tomorrow so I shall go armed with charts and lists - the Lifestyle page is brilliant as are the charts from my gym. I don't want to take anything else as I may need them later and I don't want to die of Heart Failure like my Dad did. I had to nurse him and it wasn't pleasant. Anyway it is nice to meet you all and this forum has been so helpful. I can't thank the people enough for their comments and suggestions. It is a disgrace how we diabetics are told we have the disease and the help we receive is laughable. Right I'll shut up and stop waffling now.:happy: Oh and by the way I am 63 - 64 in 2 weeks:(
 
Hello DianaRose and welcome to the forum :)

Stick around and you will pick up loads of advice. You have a great attitude.

I have not noticed any effects of tablet coatings. Not got any metformin on me at the moment, but am sure someone will check the ingredients.
 
Hello DianaRose and welcome to the forum :)

Stick around and you will pick up loads of advice. You have a great attitude.

I have not noticed any effects of tablet coatings. Not got any metformin on me at the moment, but am sure someone will check the ingredients.
No the tablets are for clinical depression which I have had for many years. They have a hard sugar coating which is very sweet and I went on line to check them out and it is sugar. They also contain lactose. I noticed I have a hot flush after taking them like when I eat something with sugar in it. I'm not a high fat person as I cannot tolerate milk or cream so I have almond milk or soya cream.
 
That's a pity. Maybe your pharmacist knows of a different brand or form of taking it which may be better for you.
 
@DianaRose

Hello DianaRose and welcome to the forum :)

I'm not sure how low carb fits in with what you are allowed to eat being veggie but just in case, there is plenty of advice about it in this Basic Information we give to new members. The other information will be useful to you, a newly diagnosed diabetic.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Yes - when I visit the dragon tomorrow I'll ask the pharmacist. Thank you for your comments they are much appreciated. It is very easy to feel abandoned when first diagnosed isn't it?
 
Hi and welcome!

And congratulations on making so many excellent changes, and grabbing this thing by the horns!

If it is any consolation, Jenny Ruhl, in her book Bloodsugar101 says that while people often take years, possibly decades, to slide from 'normal' to 'prediabetes', sometimes the final drop from preD into Type2 can happen very quickly, in weeks or a very few months.

Hopefully you didn't run around un-diagnosed for too long!

Good luck with the next appointment. And don't let that dragon bully you!
 
Hi @DianaRose, Welcome to the forum.
Oddly enough there are plenty of Dragons on this forum, however there are all very nice and so so helpful.
best of luck tomorrow.:):)
 
I like dragons. They often appear in my children's poetry that I write. How on earth do you manage to keep below 50 grams of carbs?
 
Well, I'm a bit of a carnivore.
But I do eat plenty of veg, I just don't do bread, rice, potato, pasta, parnsips, or any of the usual starchy suspects.

We have a 'What did you eat today' LC thread, if you are interested.
Not that I'm trying to push very low carbing on you, just showing you how it is deliciously possible. ;)
 
Hi @DianaRose

I found it easier with cutting carbs to start higher and gradually cut down. Some others go cold turkey. I started at about 126g and worked my way down to under 60g. I am now between 50 and 60g and very happy with it. If you use your meter to test before and after meals you will see which carbs are affecting you (keep a food diary with portion sizes and record your levels alongside). For some low carb hints for beginners, have a read of this thread http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
 
Hi @ Bluetit1802
Thank you for your response and that link. It looks very interesting and I shall try to reduce the carbs as time goes on. I am trying to keep below 100gms. I have kept a diary and it is interesting which spikes me. I love porridge(organic) and that's out now. Burgen bread is ok but I always used to make my own so may try Rye or Spelt in mini rolls. My cholesterol is ok but I'm not keen on fatty things like cream etc as it does terrible things to my digestion.It is such trial and error isn't it? I read your history and you have done so well. I would like to chuck the metformin. I have gotten from 15 down to 9.2 in 3 weeks so I think that isn't too bad. I go to the gym 3 times a week and walk my dogs on the hills. So we shall see what happens when I see the Diabetes Dragon tomorrow. I got the distinct impression that she didn't hold out much hope for me.
 
Hi Diana, welcome :)

You'll get better guidance on here than from the dragon! Don't let her browbeat you - I'm sure you won't.
 
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