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New to diabetes and clueless

Jolly_oldie

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Saw Diabetes Nurse at surgery and was told that my name had been put forward for a course at the hospital. Apart from weight and blood pressure taken and feet checked I have no idea what to eat/not eat. Was to.d I didn't have to check levels but have ordered machine and strips after reading threads yesterday. My reading is 53. Now I believe that over 48 is diabetes. Have ordered Bergen bread and oatcakes - again after reading threads on this site. I have heart failure and atrial fibrillation and recently had a defibrillator fitted and take a cocktail of drugs. I do not know if the beta blockers have caused the diabetes (doctor would not state either way). Pointers/advice would be most appreciated. Thank you. I am 66 years young. Haha.
 
Welcome.
Don't worry, you'll get way more information here than your nurse or doctor will ever give you.
I'd check the carb count on the oat cakes though. You want to stay as low carb as you can until you get a handle on things.
Carbs turn to sugar in your blood stream. Beneath the carb listing, you'll see "of which sugars....". That is the amount of the carb content that hits your blood stream straight away. A high number there is bad. The remainder of the carb value will have been slowed down by fibres, fats and proteins and should have less of an impact on your blood sugar.

- at least that's how I understand it. A meter will help you figure out which foods you need to be careful with.
 
@Jolly_oldie - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :).
Here are the Categories for HBA1C.
Normal. Below 42 mmol.
Prediabetic. 42 to 47 mmol.
Diabetes. 48 mmol and over.
That was sensible to order/purchase a Blood Glucose Meter - it is a vital and important piece of a Diabetics equipment. You can use it to find out what foods you can eat and those to avoid and most importantly how well controlled your Diabetes will be. :)
If at any time you are unsure about anything? Don't be afraid to ask questions no matter how daft you may think they are. There will always be someone to give you an answer.
Enjoy the rest of your evening. :)
 
Agree with @Liam1955 ask anything you want to here. Someone will be able to help.

The earlier stage can be confusing but it helped me to talk to others who've been there and have their diabetes under control - many do here. Low carbing works for me, many others too. I spent time getting my food organised so I was tempted to stray ... best of luck to you.
 
Oatcakes are around 6g for one. I keep pushing here Nairns organic super seeded ones - ,magic!

As for beta blockers, many cause hyperglycaemia/elevated sugar levels. Propranolol certainly does and I have stopped them a month ago and I have been getting far better blood sugar readings.
 
Saw Diabetes Nurse at surgery and was told that my name had been put forward for a course at the hospital. Apart from weight and blood pressure taken and feet checked I have no idea what to eat/not eat. Was to.d I didn't have to check levels but have ordered machine and strips after reading threads yesterday. My reading is 53. Now I believe that over 48 is diabetes. Have ordered Bergen bread and oatcakes - again after reading threads on this site. I have heart failure and atrial fibrillation and recently had a defibrillator fitted and take a cocktail of drugs. I do not know if the beta blockers have caused the diabetes (doctor would not state either way). Pointers/advice would be most appreciated. Thank you. I am 66 years young. Haha.
Hi there @Jolly_oldie , welcome to the forums.

I will ask @daisy1 to give you some basic information. Have a look around the forums and ask about anything that concerns you, there's usually sombody around who can offer advice.
 
Hi and welcome.

Don't worry, just ask, and keep reading the forum.
Sounds like you are already off to a great start by ordering that meter. Once you start testing, you will be able to tailor make your own diet to suit your preferences AND your blood glucose.

:)
 
Hi and welcome @Jolly_oldie
There will be a lot of info in the information Daisy posts. Do come back with questions and we will try and help. Your HbA1c is only just into the diabetic range so hopefully just a few changes will help. I found using a meter a really helpful way of working out what foods worked for me as we are all different.
 
@Jolly_oldie

Hello and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. A good idea to get yourself a meter and strips so you can see what different foods do to your levels. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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