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hodders

hodders

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Insulin
On second week using fiasp. However seem to be getting more hypos post meal. And this morning before breakfast bs was 6.3 and stable on libre. Injected fiasp and ate breakfast almost instant hypo. Probably because I still try eating porridge which I know is so difficult for me anyhow to get a hold on bs wise. Any tips I would be grateful as I am still a bit of a novice .
Thanks
 
I have experienced this too with a few meals. I put it down to slow absorption. You may want to try injecting after the meal with foods that are known to be slow release such as porridge.

HTH
 
I saw a review of this on youtube. The woman using it said it felt like it stung more than her regular insulin. I've not tried fiasp but am curious to hear if many users experience this sting from it?
 
Sophia78 said:
I saw a review of this on youtube. The woman using it said it felt like it stung more than her regular insulin. I've not tried fiasp but am curious to hear if many users experience this sting from it?
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Thanks Sophia I shall look this up. Yes I too think it stings more I did wonder once whether someone had given me longer needles by mistake. So far it has its plusses but I am still trying to iron out the hypos etc.
 
Hodders, fiasp sounds exciting in ways. I certainly would welcome something as fast as possible when my blood glucose has shot up and I want to bring it down asap. However, I can imagine it being hard to navigate just regular bolus injections (assuming you are on MDI's? I have no experience with pumps) particularly when just eating a quite regular meal.
Anyway, good luck, I hope you get used to it very soon!
 
Sophia78 said:
Hodders, fiasp sounds exciting in ways. I certainly would welcome something as fast as possible when my blood glucose has shot up and I want to bring it down asap. However, I can imagine it being hard to navigate just regular bolus injections (assuming you are on MDI's? I have no experience with pumps) particularly when just eating a quite regular meal.
Anyway, good luck, I hope you get used to it very soon!
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Sophia thanks again. Fiasp certainly does help on corrections bringing down highs more quickly. But yes is hard to sort out bolus timings. Yes am MDI. Thanks
 
Hi @hodders,
You mentioned long needles, so I wonder whether you accidentally injected the Fiasp into muscle instead of subcutaneous tissue.
The absorption of insulin from muscle is quicker than from subcutaneous tissue, hence more possibility of hypo as the blood sugar rise from breakfast would be much, much later.
 
Well I have never experienced any 'stings' but as they say "no sense, no feeling"

Also, I'm sure some folk do find it significantly different to NR, but apart from the original subject here, I haven't found much difference. The time profiles are quite similar. I think it is a definite improvement for adjustments taking action quickly.

I have previously had a few shots at switching to Fiasp, but have always gone back to NR after inconsistencies with Fiasp. I'm currently half way through a box trying to convince myself that it is in fact better than NR because I really think with persistence I should benefits.
 
Have just been perscribed Fiasp and at the same time changed my long acting insulin to Lantus and my sugars are going all over the place
 
kitedoc said:
Hi @hodders,
You mentioned long needles, so I wonder whether you accidentally injected the Fiasp into muscle instead of subcutaneous tissue.
The absorption of insulin from muscle is quicker than from subcutaneous tissue, hence more possibility of hypo as the blood sugar rise from breakfast would be much, much later.
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Thanks for the tip pardon the pun.. I don't think it went into muscle but certainly worth thinking about for future.
 
barrym said:
Well I have never experienced any 'stings' but as they say "no sense, no feeling"

Also, I'm sure some folk do find it significantly different to NR, but apart from the original subject here, I haven't found much difference. The time profiles are quite similar. I think it is a definite improvement for adjustments taking action quickly.

I have previously had a few shots at switching to Fiasp, but have always gone back to NR after inconsistencies with Fiasp. I'm currently half way through a box trying to convince myself that it is in fact better than NR because I really think with persistence I should benefits.
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Hi Barry
I agree with you. I am still trying to convince myself that it will help iron out some of my post prandial spikes. I don't eat many carbs but am partial to rice every now and then. Have also wondered whether could use NR or fiasp when required but not sure docs will go along with that and it would get maybe too complicated anyway trying to figure out which one. Will keep trialling it for now and see what happens. Split my dose at lunch with 2 units immediately before and 2 half way through and the line is looking spike free. Thanks again.
 
videoman said:
Have just been perscribed Fiasp and at the same time changed my long acting insulin to Lantus and my sugars are going all over the place
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Video man
As said previously why do things seem to change all at once. I got my Libre and fiasp all on the same week put that with the heatwave we are having and no wonder things go haywire. Good luck with it all.
 
hodders said:
Hi Barry
I agree with you. I am still trying to convince myself that it will help iron out some of my post prandial spikes. I don't eat many carbs but am partial to rice every now and then. Have also wondered whether could use NR or fiasp when required but not sure docs will go along with that and it would get maybe too complicated anyway trying to figure out which one. Will keep trialling it for now and see what happens. Split my dose at lunch with 2 units immediately before and 2 half way through and the line is looking spike free. Thanks again.
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I'm afraid I don't go to the extremes of double dosing etc. In fact almost regardless of what I eat I get a spike out of range, but within reason so long as it drops back inside an hour I live with it. I DO modify my diet hugely from that of a non diabetic but I try not to let it encroach on my life more than I can get away with.

Warning slightly radical idea follows.

After discussion with my endorsed consultant, she confirmed that the evidence of spikes (non quantified) causing lasting damage was scarce. We haven't had the tech until recently to corralte spikes with damage. What we do know is long term elevated levels ARE bad. So, my view is live life, 80:20 is my guide line for everything. I reckon you can get 80% control for 20% effort. After that it's diminishing returns.

YMMV
 
barrym said:
I'm afraid I don't go to the extremes of double dosing etc. In fact almost regardless of what I eat I get a spike out of range, but within reason so long as it drops back inside an hour I live with it. I DO modify my diet hugely from that of a non diabetic but I try not to let it encroach on my life more than I can get away with.

Warning slightly radical idea follows.

After discussion with my endorsed consultant, she confirmed that the evidence of spikes (non quantified) causing lasting damage was scarce. We haven't had the tech until recently to corralte spikes with damage. What we do know is long term elevated levels ARE bad. So, my view is live life, 80:20 is my guide line for everything. I reckon you can get 80% control for 20% effort. After that it's diminishing returns.

YMMV
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Good advice thanks.
 
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