new to forum, long time with diabetes. Type2.

stevetur

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Hi, Been type 2 for over 20 years, I use massve amounts of insulin every day, but still cannot get my glucose levels to make any sense. Morning level today was 22mmol,before breakfast.average level before a meal is about 15-25 mmol. I take 38units of Insulatard in the morning when I get up, plus 44 units of novorapid before each meal, then another 38 units of insulatard before bedtime. I have recently suffered 2 heart attacks, and take a lot of medications for this, Diet is difficult because what seems to be good for diabetes is bad for heart, and vice versa. I also suffer from very high iron levels, which makes me insulin resistant, hence the heavy insulin use.
The diabetic team at my local doctors seems to have run out of ideas, so i wonder if anyone out there has any experience of this, or any useful info.
PS ther are times when my glucose levels will suddenly drop to normal levels (4-7mmols) without any reason for a couple of hours.

SteveT
 
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Mrsass

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Hi Steve, welcome to the forum, I'm sure you will be able to find some new info on here that you maybe weren't aware of about diabetes.
Could you tell us what kind of meals you eat on a typical day? Your BMI?
Also what other medication you are on, these things will just provide us with a bit more info to try & help advise you.
I'll also tag @daisy1 who will post some newbie info for you :)


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daisy1

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@stevetur

Hello SteveT and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Liam1955

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@stevetur - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :).
 

stevetur

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Hi Steve, welcome to the forum, I'm sure you will be able to find some new info on here that you maybe weren't aware of about diabetes.
Could you tell us what kind of meals you eat on a typical day? Your BMI?
Also what other medication you are on, these things will just provide us with a bit more info to try & help advise you.
I'll also tag @daisy1 who will post some newbie info for you :)


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Hi, My name is Stephen, I am 58 years old, and I have been type 2 for over 20 years now, I have been on the usual T2 route, starting with diet and exercise, and progressing through tablets, (totally allergic to metformin ,remember that scene from the Excorcist, where her head starts spinning and she covers everything in green goop!! thats me on metformin) and eventually on to insulin.
I had two serious heart attacks in the past two years, and this has greatly affected my ability to exercise, and makes dieting really difficult for me.( statins make all my joints ache!!!)
my weight varies between seventeen stone and twenty stone, and I am just over six feet tall, I dont know what my BMI is, but I know I am overweight.
I take a lot of medication for my heart problems, ( nicorandil, aspirin,ramipril, diazepam,bisoprolol,codiene,simvastatin,clopidogrel,glyceryl trinitrate etc) plus the Insulatard and Novorapid.
I also have high iron levels, which makes me insulin resistent.( all the symptoms of heamochromatosis, but without having the genetic marker that usually occurs )

Meals are really difficult for me, as I not only have to avoid as many carbs as possible, I also have to avoid iron, and vitamin C. (which makes you store iron) and cholesterol.

Typical meals are
Breakfast, high fibre cerial
Dinner Eggs bacon toast.
Evening meal . fish potatoes peas .

other things include pulses, root veg, indian/chinese food (cooked at home) beans pasta etc.

Hope this shows you more about me, and my lifestyle

Steve T

I have been watching the website fof years, but have only just decided to join the forum.
 

robert72

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Hi @stevetur

I had a heart bypass just over three years ago and the thing that freaked the doctors out most was when my BG went over 12. High blood sugars will do far more damage to arteries than a lower-carb diet that keeps BG levels in range.
 
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