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DavidCMarsh

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi Everyone,
I'm just about befuddled with what I've been told with regard to self help. I'm Type 2 and only just recently been confirmed as a Type 2. My glucose levels have been creeping up and after my last fasting blood tests were done on the 2nd December I was told my level is at 8.7.
So, the nurse said diet might help, I'm 69 years of age, 5'11" tall and weight wise I'm 85kgs or 13st lbs and so need to lose a little weight with regard to my BMI. I'm booked in to see the dietitian on the 2nd January.
What I really would welcome advice on is this, what in real language should I be eating? Carrots?? Potatoes? you know the sort of thing.
I would just like to know what my three meals a day should consist of ingredient wise. Well, not exactly me but She who must be obeyed as she's sat there reading the recipes on here scratching her head!
Thank you very much for reading.
David C. Marsh
 
Hi David and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. Ask as many questions you need to and someone will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, Welcome

Many of us find that reducing our carb intake is very effective in reducing our blood glucose numbers

try to cut down on bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and sweet things.... what does that leave?

vegetables (the ones that grow above ground are best
salad
meat
dairy

cut down on fruit too, berries are best if you like fruit

many like to reduce their carbohydrates to a very low level but you should have a good read of the forum and decide what sounds good to you

are you testing your bloods with the finger prick tester? this is very useful if done before you eat and then 2 hours afterwards as it shows you what the food your eating does to your blood numbers, if the doc wont give you one, and you can afford it, it would be a good idea to buy one for yourself, they really are very useful

anyway, best wishes and ask any specific questions you have, this is simplified but i dont want to overload you with info, its easy to feel overwhelmed at first
 
Welcome to "the club" David. You've already received some very good advice so not much for me to add really. Exercise will also help, doesn't need to be vigorous, a walk is adequate. Good luck and keep us updated with your progress.
Mo


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Hi David, I am not a low carb, but a smaller reduced amount of carbs, I do eat small portions of rice, pasta potatoes, with lots of veg and some fruit. My hba1c a year ago was 19 my last two readings were 6.5 I am with my dietitein who has been great, and my gp, nearly 3 stones lighter nearly back at my normal weight one year later, on metformin.....exercise has increased....
Welcome, hope you find all the different replys interesting and find a way which works for you, best wishes Kat
 
Kat100 said:
Hi David, I am not a low carb, but a smaller reduced amount of carbs, I do eat small portions of rice, pasta potatoes, with lots of veg and some fruit. My hba1c a year ago was 19 my last two readings were 6.5 I am with my dietitein who has been great, and my gp, nearly 3 stones lighter nearly back at my normal weight one year later, on metformin.....exercise has increased....
Welcome, hope you find all the different replys interesting and find a way which works for you, best wishes Kat

Sup Kat, don't get it, if your hba1c is 19 then are you now not a diabetic. This is a genuine question as my latest result has gone from 43 to 50 two weeks ago. My GP said that was ok and that my previous reading of 43 is where I should aim to keep things. When I said that a non diabetic reading was 20-30 which is what I'd heard on this website, he threw his arms up and said I should NOT aim to get to such a low reading as I would make myself very ill. I am so very very confused indeed, what do you believe? If I took you to my doctor he would tell you that you were in the danger zone and should get your reading up. It's so frustrating, if any of the gurus are reading this could I get your opinion please as this makes me want to give up. I know why my reading went from 43 to 50, I just binged on sugar for two months as I gave up, I've now gotten diet under control more so plan to have another reading done in March to allow for the break I'm going to allow myself for the Xmas period. Thanks then, Q..


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Very low HbA1C readings are not advised as could lead to many hypo's if you take meds that lower BG levels, eg, insulin, Gliclazide, etc. if you are not on any meds and are controlled by diet/exercise, you can drop to these levels no problem.


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Welcome David, You've found the right place for advice and you've had some very good advice so far. I think Kat means 19%, which is HbA1c in 'old money', which would be 184 in new, wow! (Had to double check that on the converter). If you've brought that down to 6.5% ( 47 ) well done Kat :thumbup:
 
I notice I’m referred to as a ‘Newbie’ even after five years of being on here!! I know I’ve not been very active as my mmol numbers have been pretty good.....until today when they have more than doubled!!! Not a happy bunny.
 
I notice I’m referred to as a ‘Newbie’ even after five years of being on here!! I know I’ve not been very active as my mmol numbers have been pretty good.....until today when they have more than doubled!!! Not a happy bunny.

Hi David,

A very belated welcome to the forum.!

I dare say it's the post count ranking you under the "newbie" banner..

I notice you have started a new thread regarding your BG issue elsewhere. & seem in good hands.

Regards. :)

J>
 
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