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New to this and Dapagliflozin

Junkyard_

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi all,

I'm 32 been diagnosed type 2 about three months ago and been put straight onto dapagliflozin. For the first month and abit I felt fantastic, so much energy lost a bit of weight I thought I'd finally found the answer to why I'd felt so awful. But then it all changed I'm still taking the same amount, same time of day etc but I'm back to feeling tired, and weights gone up a little.

Has anyone else experienced this with Dapa? What are people's experiences on this.... What am I doing wrong for the weight to go back on?

Any advice would be greatly received
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. This drug will remove at most 70 grams of glucose from your system each day which can help with both blood glucose levels and weight. In order to continue getting the full benefit you are going to have to reduce your carb intake and maybe your calories as well. Do you have a meter? If you do not you need to get one and learn to use it. There is no magic pill. I am on this drug and it helps but you still have to put the work in. Are you on metformin as well? I do not mean to overwhelm you and I apologize if I am doing so. I will tag @daisy1 and she will send you some welcoming information. Have a good read of it as it is very good info. Please ask any questions you have and someone will answer. These are a wonderful bunch of folks. :)
 
Thank you, any information would be great. No not on metaformin as used to take this for pco and had a horrible reaction. The nurse did mention the possibility of a weekly injection as well but haven't heard anymore on that's yet.

I also have hypothyroidism as well, so when I initially lost weight I was really chuffed as its not easy. Going to have to seriously reduce my carbs I think...
 
The other advantage to reducing carbs while on this drug is that you will be a lot less likely to develop thrush. What seems to work best for most people is to go very strict low carb high fat or LCHF at first. When you have your BG stabilized then you can start to add foods back in carefully, testing with your meter, to find out what carb level and which foods suit your body. We are all different. This method is called eating to your meter and it works very well. Check out the diet section of this forum for ideas of what to eat. I have a very hard time losing weight as well so I sympathize with you on that. Hopefully along the way you will lose some weight and get to your goals. o_O:D
 
@Junkyard_

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Insulin Resistant Diabetes, Type 2, is a dietary disease. It needs to be treated with a diet that is appropriate for your metabolic needs. A lot of people believe refined carbs is the primary driving force of the insulin resistance syndrome (metabolic syndrome) that causes obesity, cardiovascular disease and diabetes. Medications are only supposed to be there to supplement a proper diet, if needed ; many find, like myself I no longer needing to be on any medications after a proper dietary change (I used to inject 120 units of insulin per day and take Metformin) -- again one that meets your particular metabolic fingerprint.

Here is a good online resource from http://BloodSugar101.com on "eating to your meter" i.e. eating the carb load your body can handle. Basically, Test, Review and Adjust. (You should keep a journal for this). Here is the link:

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

Weight loss, will help with the disease by reducing insulin levels and resistance. A lot of good books say carbs are what makes a person fat (particularly refined carbs), so cutting them should help with weight loss. A former professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, George Cahill, said "Carbohydrate is driving insulin is driving fat."

I see the above quote as:
carbs -> insulin resistance syndrom (metabolic syndrome) -> obesity, cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes

I believe the increase in refined carbs over the past century, especially since 1977, has driven the outrageous growth of obesity and diabetes. And I believe they are the primary cause of cardiovascular disease as well.

Recommended Books:
Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes
The New Atkins for a New You : Westman/Vinney/Pholek
The Obesity code by Dr. Jason Fung
The Art & Science of Low Carbohydrate Living by Vinney/Pholek

Anyways, hope anything I've said might be helpful to you.

Jennifer
 
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