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New Type 2 - trying Newcastle from the off?!?!

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rackellsie

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Market Harborough
Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Hi everyone. :) I saw the DB nurse last week who confirmed I am diabetic (50mmol & 51mmol). I had asked for advice on weight loss surgery and raised my concerns I cd be diabetic (gestational diabetes 5 yrs ago). Glad I found out but totally bricking it and sooooooo angry that I didn't sort myself earlier. Been on Newcastle diet for 11days, lost 11lbs and bought a BG monitor today (5 mol) b4 dins 1st reading.

I we'd REALLY appreciate advice!!!!!

Thanks
 
You seem to be doing everything right.
Read some of the diet threads.
It is not the life sentence we all first assume it to be.
 
Thanks. Just wondering what levels I shd b looking for?

Have been reading threads for days and learnt so much! Glad I ignored DB Nurse and carried on with Newcastle.
 
rackellsie said:
Hi everyone. :) I saw the DB nurse last week who confirmed I am diabetic (50mmol & 51mmol). I had asked for advice on weight loss surgery and raised my concerns I cd be diabetic (gestational diabetes 5 yrs ago). Glad I found out but totally bricking it and sooooooo angry that I didn't sort myself earlier. Been on Newcastle diet for 11days, lost 11lbs and bought a BG monitor today (5 mol) b4 dins 1st reading.

I we'd REALLY appreciate advice!!!!!

Thanks
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Hello, Rackellsie

First thing I would advise is that you make sure you do have some sort of medical advice/support. It took me a long time to persuade my GP that Newcastle diet was the method I wanted to use. I found support from GP, practice nurse, and more so from a local independent pharmacy.
The reason I say get support is that this is a drastic measure to take, and if you are monitored regularly you will avoid any problems of blood glucose going too low, also ketone levels being too high.

You don't mention how you are going about Newcastle diet. Which products you use and what else you are consuming. Some meal replacement products are quite high in carbs, which don't help some people despite the calorie restriction.

I recommend that you get a copy of the Newcastle diet research details and take them to your GP or nurse.
Congratulations on your decision, it is not something to take without consideration, also you need determination to stick to the 8 weeks. Some forum users have criticised Newcastle diet, but those who have done it are seeing good results. I did it 3 years ago, and have not had diabetes blood glucose since. There is good advice and support on the thread 'Newcastle diet advice'.

I would emphasise again, get a print out of the Newcastle diet information, Professor Taylor et al, take a copy to GP and nurse, and if possible to a supportive pharmacy. The products I used were only available from the pharmacy, (lipotrim), and only with GP approval. The cost included weekly monitoring by phamacy and I was also checked every 2 weeks at GP surgery.

Best of luck

Pipp
 
Pipp said:
Hello, Rackellsie

First thing I would advise is that you make sure you do have some sort of medical advice/support. It took me a long time to persuade my GP that Newcastle diet was the method I wanted to use. I found support from GP, practice nurse, and more so from a local independent pharmacy.
The reason I say get support is that this is a drastic measure to take, and if you are monitored regularly you will avoid any problems of blood glucose going too low, also ketone levels being too high.

You don't mention how you are going about Newcastle diet. Which products you use and what else you are consuming. Some meal replacement products are quite high in carbs, which don't help some people despite the calorie restriction.

I recommend that you get a copy of the Newcastle diet research details and take them to your GP or nurse.
Congratulations on your decision, it is not something to take without consideration, also you need determination to stick to the 8 weeks. Some forum users have criticised Newcastle diet, but those who have done it are seeing good results. I did it 3 years ago, and have not had diabetes blood glucose since. There is good advice and support on the thread 'Newcastle diet advice'.

I would emphasise again, get a print out of the Newcastle diet information, Professor Taylor et al, take a copy to GP and nurse, and if possible to a supportive pharmacy. The products I used were only available from the pharmacy, (lipotrim), and only with GP approval. The cost included weekly monitoring by phamacy and I was also checked every 2 weeks at GP surgery.

Best of luck

Pipp[/QUOTE
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I appreciate the advice Pipp. I have read a lot of your posts :)

I will take all info on next visit - hopefully will get some support.

I have been using Slimfast & ASDA meal replacements; I now see the Slimfast isn't gd on carbs so bought some Atkins today, but am also going to try Exante(?). Slimfast doesn't seem to agree with me anyway.

Feeling okay with diet AT THIS EARLY stage, but I would rather SEE my children grow up than eat all the rubbish I have stuffed down my throat for far too long!
 
Here is some of the information from the Newcastle team: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm

Please note that the diet sheet from them does not mention taking 1 tsp of olive oil with the vegetables to avoid gallstones - however, it is clearly stated at the Optifast website that people using their shakes should be doing so:

"The inclusion of a teaspoon (5ml) of oil a day whilst on the Intensive Phase is important for those who are at risk of developing gall stones. The oil stimulates the emptying of the gall bladder, helping to prevent gall stones. Normally a teaspoon of oil (usually olive oil) is included in the daily serve of vegetables."
 
rackellsie said:
I appreciate the advice Pipp. I have read a lot of your posts :)

I will take all info on next visit - hopefully will get some support.

I have been using Slimfast & ASDA meal replacements; I now see the Slimfast isn't gd on carbs so bought some Atkins today, but am also going to try Exante(?). Slimfast doesn't seem to agree with me anyway.

Feeling okay with diet AT THIS EARLY stage, but I would rather SEE my children grow up than eat all the rubbish I have stuffed down my throat for far too long!
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Keep posting, you will get support. You have done well with weight loss so far, so Well Done you.

I understand your angst at what you see as letting yourself down by getting in a position to become diabetic. Do not beat yourself up about it. There are plenty of others out there who will do it for us. The important thing is you are doing something about it. One of the things that made me take action was the thought that at twice the weight I should be I was likely to die soon. My concern was that in the distress of their loss, my loved ones would need to find a crematorium with the facility to dispose of my oversized remains. Bizarre thought train, I know, and not something I have shared with anyone before. Not only will you see your children grow up, but you will also set them an example in determination to solve a problem, also you will be considering their health by after completing Newcastle making sure your food is of a healthy variety.
If it helps, another thread where I find a lot of support is 'a new you in 42'. We are just over half way in an exercise challenge, but it isn't too late to join in. Despite having reversed diabetes I still have a lot of weight to lose, so will be hanging around the forum to receive support as well as give it.
Pipp
 
Pipp said:
Keep posting, you will get support. You have done well with weight loss so far, so Well Done you.

I understand your angst at what you see as letting yourself down by getting in a position to become diabetic. Do not beat yourself up about it. There are plenty of others out there who will do it for us. The important thing is you are doing something about it. One of the things that made me take action was the thought that at twice the weight I should be I was likely to die soon. My concern was that in the distress of their loss, my loved ones would need to find a crematorium with the facility to dispose of my oversized remains. Bizarre thought train, I know, and not something I have shared with anyone before. Not only will you see your children grow up, but you will also set them an example in determination to solve a problem, also you will be considering their health by after completing Newcastle making sure your food is of a healthy variety.
If it helps, another thread where I find a lot of support is 'a new you in 42'. We are just over half way in an exercise challenge, but it isn't too late to join in. Despite having reversed diabetes I still have a lot of weight to lose, so will be hanging around the forum to receive support as well as give it.
Pipp
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It is good to share your fears, no matter how terrifying or dark. I am a very positive person and it is clear you have done remarkably well and keep heading in the right direction. Much of what I read from you and other members has been so inspirational and I intend to keep my stubborn and focused head for as long as possible! I do realise that is am lucky to have been diagnosed relatively early in DB progression and VERY fortunate to have happened upon this site.
 
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