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hi
My name is Derek and i was diagnosed with type 2 three years ago.
I probably have not been dealing with this diagnoses very well or looking after myself as i should over these last three years .
My condition has now progressed to the stage where i need to start topping up with insulin.
I now realise i can no longer ignore this and just carry on by taking the tablets that’s why i joined this site to hopefully make me see some sense seek some advice
and share my experiences.
I’m happily married to my wife dawn and blessed with three daughters all grown up and two lovely grandsons.
 
Hi Derek and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members which I think you will find very useful. Ask any questions you like and someone will be here to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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PETITION CLOSES ON 31 OCTOBER 2012 AT 1029 SO PLEASE SIGN NOW

Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi derek53, welcome to the forum. have a good look round the site, then ask as many questions as you like, I'm sure you will be able to drastically improve your condition. Cheers
 
Thank you
My problem is one of acceptance of the condition .
I have always kept myself reasonably fit not to overweight but could lose a couple of KG but.
The last 12 months or so i have noticed a change in myself i just don’t have the same energy levels
This i get very frustrated with because i am constantly tired and simply can’t do the things i used to do.
 
My credo has always been that I will give it up when I have to. Enjoying stuff as long as you can is not a crime. I gave up sugar in my tea in the 70's and I gave up smoking in 1979 on new years eve.

Diabetes is just a way of adding to the list. This could include sugar in food, flour, rice or potatoes. You won't know exactly until you try them and test to see what happens.

It's no good denying it, you just have to deal with it.
 
Hello Derek,

can I be nosey and ask what sort of numbers you're getting (out of your meter), assuming you have one?

S
 
Hello S
im not measuring regular i dont have a meter but in the last 3 years i have given up suger, sweets,cakes.,crisps potatoes.and starchy foods.
I do like my cheeses and milk and I do like a little boose in the evenig with my wife after work in front of the TV
Thnakyou for the interest.
Best Regards
Derek
 
Hi Derek,

It sounds like you're already on the right sort of foods, but you do say that you feel lethargic and that could be down to your levels.
What are the chances of your GP giving you a meter and some test strips? - they'll have to if they put you on insulin but it might be worth trying to see how you can tune your diet first.

If your GP won't give you a meter (and many won't) then you might buy one to at least see where you are at the moment.
 
Please ask the GP to check your Vitamin D levels. A deficiency in Vitamin D can cause all sorts of problems that are very much like chronic fatigue. My levels were low and once I started on supplementation there was a huge improvemet in my energy levels, even though at that stage I still had very high blood glucose. Once the Vitamin D took hold, I was able to exercise and the flow on to BG control was huge.

(I'm starting to sound like a broken record on the subject of Vitamin D and B12, but getting those vitamins right can make a HUGE impact on your quality of life. Just ask your GP to have them checked with your next blood work. Vitamin D deficiency is RAMPANT, even in sunny Australia, so can only imagine what it must be like in northern latitudes.)
 
Cheers, Derek. Perth is a great place to live :)

Since I was found to have low Vitamin D both my sister and her daughter (and the daughter has quite olive skin) have also tested as low. The subject seems to be turning up in mainstream media more often, too.
 
Indy51 said:
Please ask the GP to check your Vitamin D levels. A deficiency in Vitamin D can cause all sorts of problems that are very much like chronic fatigue. My levels were low and once I started on supplementation there was a huge improvemet in my energy levels, even though at that stage I still had very high blood glucose. Once the Vitamin D took hold, I was able to exercise and the flow on to BG control was huge.

(I'm starting to sound like a broken record on the subject of Vitamin D and B12, but getting those vitamins right can make a HUGE impact on your quality of life. Just ask your GP to have them checked with your next blood work. Vitamin D deficiency is RAMPANT, even in sunny Australia, so can only imagine what it must be like in northern latitudes.)

Hello Derek and welcome to the forum.

I agree with Indy, I was also VitD deficient at diagnosis, I was prescribed a VitD and Calcium tablet and with that and getting my figures down I felt so much better. Sometimes things are associated with diabetes, other times not, VitD is not, it is a huge problem in the population because we don't get enough sunlight.

Derek you must get a meter, how can you tell if what you are eating is effecting your levels without one. Ask your GP, it's unlikely he will prescribe, but some of us T2's, me included do get them. If he refuses, Ebay and Amazon sell a meter called the SD codefree. It has the cheapest strips by far at around £4.99-£6.99 for 50, many other meters cost £20 and above for strips. Do start testing, you have to accept this condition. Go down the forum and read the section on diabetes complications to see what can happen if you continue to ignore you are diabetic.

Good luck.
 
I have started reading through some of these diabetes complications and it is frightening the life out of me.
One of the most interesting topics for me at least at my stage is the diabetic neuropathy,
I suffer from this my feet are a constant source of pain.
I’m going to ask my nurse for a meter.
 
A meter isn't a luxury but a neccessity. If you dont manage to get one, can you fund one yourself?

I would wager a large sum of money (if I had any lol) that you can feel better, improve your energy levels and improve your medication situation if you look at how the foods you eat affect your blood glucose levels and make changes to your diet, even though you have already made improvement, those pesky carbs get everywhere lol

keep us updated

Mary x
 
derek53 said:
I have started reading through some of these diabetes complications and it is frightening the life out of me.
One of the most interesting topics for me at least at my stage is the diabetic neuropathy,
I suffer from this my feet are a constant source of pain.
I’m going to ask my nurse for a meter.

Derek ... I was only diagnosed in August this year but over TEN YEARS AGO I had all the major symptoms plus terrible foot pain which went on for a couple of years. I also had shooting pains like electric shocks mainly down my legs yet nothing ever showed up. Now I don't have those symptoms at all, they just disappeared of their own accord well before my diagnosis. Please don't dwell on the various complications because they may or may not happen.

Concentrate on ONE thing at a time - 1) get a meter 2) note what you eat at mealtimes 3) test 2 hrs later 4) make adjustments to diet accordingly and eat according to what your meter indicates is giving you trouble eg, if potatoes give you a high reading - stop eating them. Many of us find that cutting out carbs works best for US at lowering blood sugar and I've personally found a lot of other health issues are clearing up just because of the change of diet.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

So please concentrate on NOW not on what may or may not happen in future. If you do that, you're taking care of the future also. :)
 
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