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Hi, I've been type 2 for around 2 years now, (had gestational 4 years ago), just been put on metformin 2 weeks ago, been testing bloods and I'm 15.2 after meals, was never this high before meds, feel sick, achey, hot/cold, tired all the time, is this normal. Thanks in advance x
 
Hi Mummyofone and welcome to the forum :)

Other members will be along soon to help you based on their own experiences. For myself, I didn't feel bad at all when I started Metformin although it is very common to have stomach cramps/diarrhea at the beginning. Flu-like symptoms can be a side effect of Metformin in which case you should discuss this with your doctor or DN. In the meantime, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you need to as there is always someone who will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks daisy1 for the reply, do you know how long side effects lasts, was on metformin when pregnant but had such a dreadful pregnancy I could of had these symptoms and not even noticed :-)
 
I'm afraid I can't answer that question as side effects could just be temporary and go away after a little while when your body becomes accustomed to Metformin (although 2 weeks is quite long), or they may not go away and you would need some other medication. There is also a SR (slow release version) which helps some people although they take it mainly for stomach problems so it probably wouldn't help you. In your position I really would talk to the DN or Doctor about it. Keep an eye on this thread as some members may have been through the same thing and post about it on here.
 
Hi Mummyofone and welcome to the forum, firstly the symptoms you describe are fairly common for newly diagnosed diabetics that are running high blood glucose (bg) levels and you should find that after a week or two on metformin they should start coming down a bit but please bear in mind that even the max dose of metformin will only help to drop bg levels by between 1 and 2 mmol/L so you will need to help yourself as well by watching the amount of carbohydrates you eat.

Read and reread the first post Daisy left you regards the "BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS" the information in that post is spot on and has helped me and many others to gain good control over our bg levels.

Re the metformin side effects, these differ obviously just like any other drug, some will get no side effects at all while others will react quite badly to some drugs. Metformin is a drug that seems to affect quite a lot of people though often causing stomach cramps, wind (flatulence) and sometimes diarrhea, these symptoms generally ease after a couple of weeks and become manageable by most but some find that swapping to the slow release (SR) version is the answer and a few find that they just cant tolerate the drug at all which is a shame as it does work well but obviously no one can be expected to live with those type of symptoms indefinitely. If all else fails then they are a range of other drugs that can help in a number of different ways but metformin is usually the first drug prescribed for most T2 diabetics..

Metformin works in several ways, it reduces the amount of sugar made by the liver, it limits the amount of sugar absorbed into the body from the diet, and makes insulin receptors more sensitive (helping the body respond better to its own insulin). All of these effects combine to cause a decrease in blood sugar levels. It also helps curb appetite in many which helps with weight loss for those who are overweight.

Try not to worry too much, I know its not easy to begin with but it does get easier with time and you will be able to relax it just takes a while to get your head round everything, everyone here was in your position once and we have all felt frightened, confused and alone but there is a wealth of information, personal experience and support here :D
 
Thanks Sid Bonkers for your reply, had no idea that metformin only reduced by 1-2 mmol, I suppose I thought it was a wonder drug. I also suffer from IBS so I'm used to stomach problems but nothing like this. Going to see how it goes :-)
 
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