Thank you for this replying and for the valuable information. Yes I was on the "Eatwell plate" type diet. I'm now following a low carb, good fats diet and trying to NOT escalate to full T2D. I'm also doing 18/6 Intermittent fasting. My doctors have been terrible as I've checked my records and have been borderline since 2019 with Fatty liver and because I don't look sick or diabetic and I move a lot. Iv been ignored. I have no idea if I'm helping or hindering my health but I'm giving it a try. As a long standing member and T2D, I'm open to all advice and thank you once again.Hi - I was in much the same situation as you from about 2010 onwards. Diabetic symptoms, blood glucose out of normal range, but told "not diabetic". I had ten years of pain and discomfort that could have been avoided.... so my view is that diabetic symptoms equals diabetes. Diagnosis at HbA1c of 48+ is supposed to be the fallback, but is instead used as the only diagnostic tool by the NHS.
Anyway - when you say you have a "good diet" do you mean you eat the recommended high carb "Eatwell Plate"? That is what I was doing when I became diabetic. So - what you think of as "a good diet" might have contributed to you becoming T2 in the first place. It did for me. What exactly do you eat?
I reduced carb to around 20g/day in December 2019 and my BG was in normal range by April 2020. I subsequently lost around 90lbs that I'd acquired since 2010, but that happened in the years after BG became normal. I'm where I want to be now and am maintaining my weight while still on 20g carb. Increasing my dietary fat intake has done that.
Did you have tests that pointed to NAFLD? It’s also called Metabolic dysfunction-associated steatotic liver disease or MASLD. The Reasons for developing it are not straight forward. Children can sometimes get it. As the name suggests it is associated with metabolic syndrome. Components relating to metabolic syndrome compose of excess weight, high triglycerides or LDL cholesterol, T2DM , high blood pressure and I would add chronic inflammation.Hello to everyone. Went to my doctor as I was having pains, pins and needles, heart palpitations and thought I might have a B12 deficiency.
I'm underweight and have a really good diet and hardly drink alcohol. I was amazed that I have Fatty liver and now Im Pre diabetic.......Everything I read is about regaining your health by diet, such as losing weight and going low carb/zero sugar. The problem is apart from cutting out the carbs, my diet is really good. I definitely do NOT want to lose weight. Is there any Thin peeps out there who can offer any advice? Oh and I'm adopted and so do not know about any family history of T2D or fatty liver and I'm of Asian/African/Arabic descent according to Ancestry International! Thank you for reading.
I have no idea why I have fatty liver, and the docs don't either. I have blood test figures that seem to be within range, but what seems acceptable for one body may not be for another. The one size fits all comes to mind! The Neuropathy has been going on for 7 months now and the fatty liver for 5 years. For those 5 years I was told its nothing to worry about as a lot of people have it. I was enjoying a glass of red now and again and eating carbs and puddings, now I realise that Fatty liver IS a big deal! So when the Neuropathy began, I had to beg to be tested for Insulin Resistance as I don't fit any of the criteria for having diabetes. So here I am now, I'm due to see the doctor in 2 weeks as they don't think its urgent enough to be seen before. I have no genetic history to call on........ So I'm taking control of my own health and NOT listening to advice so doggedly. Iv began IF and low carb and NO sugars, NO alcohol and Meditation. Thank you so much for the reply and taking the time to make suggestions.Did you have tests that pointed to NAFLD? It’s also called Metabolic dysfunction-associated steatotic liver disease or MASLD. The Reasons for developing it are not straight forward. Children can sometimes get it. As the name suggests it is associated with metabolic syndrome. Components relating to metabolic syndrome compose of excess weight, high triglycerides or LDL cholesterol, T2DM , high blood pressure and I would add chronic inflammation.
Do you have high triglycerides? Sometimes people have a genetic predisposition for high lipids. In this instance it has nothing to do with diet. I chose to go on statins to reduce my LDL’s, however my Triglycerides are very low. It can also be associated with several other conditions : polycystic ovary syndrome , sleep apnea ,and hypothyroidism. Have they tested for any of those conditions?
If none of those associated conditions apply then they suggest losing weight, but as you are under weight this may not apply, increasing exercise, reduction in alcohol, but if you don’t drink then this would not apply either, and reduction in Triglycerides, through meds like statins, reducing blood pressure through BP meds or alternatively , reducing your carb intake through very low carb diets. Going on a very low carb diet may help you, but losing weight when you don’t have it to lose can cause it’s own set of problems. I’m also thin, and my weight drops off very easily, so you may have to monitor your weight while cutting down on carbs. We are all different and our bodily response to diets like keto is unique to the person. Obviously none of the above constitutes medical advice as it goes against forum rules.
I was a thin peep when diagnosed with T2D. As far as I recall, I didn't have any symptoms apart from tiredness, which I attributed to work and jetlag. In those days, the advice was to cut out sugar and have low-fat frequent small meals with carbs. I was put onto Metformin, and got worse and worse, and gained weight.. I now think what it was is I didn't have a lot of fat cells to store excess carbs eaten, so it went to visceral fat. Now I've cut down on carbs - not eliminated - and I'm on intermittent fasting, but not specifically reducing calories. It's worked for me, I've lost about 3 kilos over 4 months and my A1c is way down. But I guess everyone has to find out what works for them.Hello to everyone. Went to my doctor as I was having pains, pins and needles, heart palpitations and thought I might have a B12 deficiency.
I'm underweight and have a really good diet and hardly drink alcohol. I was amazed that I have Fatty liver and now Im Pre diabetic.......Everything I read is about regaining your health by diet, such as losing weight and going low carb/zero sugar. The problem is apart from cutting out the carbs, my diet is really good. I definitely do NOT want to lose weight. Is there any Thin peeps out there who can offer any advice? Oh and I'm adopted and so do not know about any family history of T2D or fatty liver and I'm of Asian/African/Arabic descent according to Ancestry International! Thank you for reading.
A great way to put on weight in a healthy way is by building your muscle mass. When people talk about wanting to lose weight, they often mean they want to shed fat. After all, losing just any weight isn't always the answer—in that were the case just chop off a leg and there to go! Building muscle is really about body composition, which is a fascinating topic you might want to check out.Hello to everyone. Went to my doctor as I was having pains, pins and needles, heart palpitations and thought I might have a B12 deficiency.
I'm underweight and have a really good diet and hardly drink alcohol. I was amazed that I have Fatty liver and now Im Pre diabetic.......Everything I read is about regaining your health by diet, such as losing weight and going low carb/zero sugar. The problem is apart from cutting out the carbs, my diet is really good. I definitely do NOT want to lose weight. Is there any Thin peeps out there who can offer any advice? Oh and I'm adopted and so do not know about any family history of T2D or fatty liver and I'm of Asian/African/Arabic descent according to Ancestry International! Thank you for reading.
Thank you for this very informative reply. I have now got weights and do some resistance training each day. Iv struggled to eat more meat but I am on target for increasing my protein. I am practically zero sugar now, but finding resisting my home made bread that I make for hubby very hard to resist. But I am doing it! I don't eat seed oils. I cook with avocado oil and take 30mls of organic E V Olive oil daily (which tastes disgusting, I cant lie). Sadly my neuropathy is getting painful and feels like its creeping all around my body. No cure apparently but Il give Keto a chance to work alongside 18/6 fasting. Thank you again for your time.A great way to put on weight in a healthy way is by building your muscle mass. When people talk about wanting to lose weight, they often mean they want to shed fat. After all, losing just any weight isn't always the answer—in that were the case just chop off a leg and there to go! Building muscle is really about body composition, which is a fascinating topic you might want to check out.
To increase your muscle, you need 2 things: 1. Focus on boosting your protein and healthy fat intake—this is especially important if you’re cutting down on carbs. 2. Strength training. The more you lift, the hungrier you’ll get for protein, which in turn supports muscle growth, creating a positive cycle of cravings and gains.
And speaking of protein, meat is one of the best sources! If you haven’t already, you might want to check out Dr. Bernstein’s book “Diabetes Solution” for some great insights.
Regarding fatty liver, the lower carb intake should help a bunch, specially if you limit sugar, fructose and seed oils.
Forgive me: I haven't read every post in the thread, but have your results been reviewed in line with your ethnic heritage? The reason I ask is certain ethnic groups have lower tolerances/diagnostic levels to certain conditions, and for some that includes (particularly) T2 diabetes. For instance South Asian folks have lower targets for BMI, waist measurements and diagnostic A1cs.Hello to everyone. Went to my doctor as I was having pains, pins and needles, heart palpitations and thought I might have a B12 deficiency.
I'm underweight and have a really good diet and hardly drink alcohol. I was amazed that I have Fatty liver and now Im Pre diabetic.......Everything I read is about regaining your health by diet, such as losing weight and going low carb/zero sugar. The problem is apart from cutting out the carbs, my diet is really good. I definitely do NOT want to lose weight. Is there any Thin peeps out there who can offer any advice? Oh and I'm adopted and so do not know about any family history of T2D or fatty liver and I'm of Asian/African/Arabic descent according to Ancestry International! Thank you for reading.
Good job! Regarding the neuropathy pain, I’ve read that that could happen when you start to normalize your bg and the nerves start to work again. If you’re consistent with your bg control, the pain should go away but by bit. I’ll see if I can find where I read it. Keep up the good work!Thank you for this very informative reply. I have now got weights and do some resistance training each day. Iv struggled to eat more meat but I am on target for increasing my protein. I am practically zero sugar now, but finding resisting my home made bread that I make for hubby very hard to resist. But I am doing it! I don't eat seed oils. I cook with avocado oil and take 30mls of organic E V Olive oil daily (which tastes disgusting, I cant lie). Sadly my neuropathy is getting painful and feels like its creeping all around my body. No cure apparently but Il give Keto a chance to work alongside 18/6 fasting. Thank you again for your time.
Btw, I did post a screen shot from Dr. Bernstein's book about how you can get pain once the nerves begin to heal, but it got rejected because I'm a newbie. Unfortunately I can't copy and paste from the kindle. Let's see if I can find it somewhere else.Good job! Regarding the neuropathy pain, I’ve read that that could happen when you start to normalize your bg and the nerves start to work again. If you’re consistent with your bg control, the pain should go away but by bit. I’ll see if I can find where I read it. Keep up the good work!
Btw, I did post a screen shot from Dr. Bernstein's book about how you can get pain once the nerves begin to heal, but it got rejected because I'm a newbie. Unfortunately I can't copy and paste from the kindle. Let's see if I can find it somewhere else.
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