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oogliwoogli

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi everyone
I have been diagnosed a type 2 diabetic for around six months. I haven't got the handle on it as yet and whereas I started on metformin which after a short time the nurse doubled the dosage, I have recently been put on dapagliflozin too. I have a meter but don't really understand when to test and don't know how to interpret the result anyway. I realise that my life will have to change but am morbidly obese with multi level spondylosis (arthritis of the spine) and have recently found that one of my depression medications is actually one of the causes of me craving food (mirtazipine). I found some amazing diabetic recipes earlier and can't wait for payday to try some out. My name is Steve by the way and I am 47 years old. I look forward to hearing your advice
 
Hi Steve. it can take a while to realise that you can get in control, but you can - if you have the right approach. I'll keep it short for now. You should look round the forums here on the site and investigate particularly low carb diets. Cutting down the carbs is what will reduce your blood sugar levels, and you'll get loads of advice on it here - so just ask. First though, the meter...you don't need to know so much about interpretation at first as you will soon see for yourself what is lowering your levels and what isn't. Basically, although some doctors tell you you don't need to test so much, many of us feel that regular testing is the only way to really stay in control as otherwise you would have no idea what your blood sugar level is after particular foods. My advice, which is very much the advice you'll get here, is test before you eat and then again 2-2.5 hours after eating. these levels should be quite similar unless there are too many carbs in the food you are eating. This is because carbohydrates to all intents and purposes turn to sugar in the blood. What are your readings at the moment? If you keep a food diary or record of what you eat, when you eat it and these before and after readings, you will soon notice patterns. For example - eat some toast and you'll probably notice quite a jump in blood sugar, same with cereal and a lot of other foods. So, you will learn which food to reduce or cut out altogether. The normal range we aim for is between say 4.0mmols and 7.0mmols (the readings on your meter will be in mmols). Your reading may be a good bit higher at the moment - don't worry...most of us start way up there (my first reading on diagnosis was 21mmols..and now I am seldom above 7.0mmols and do not need meds). General advice is try to avoid a jump between meals of about 2.5mmols from the premeal reading, and try to keep under 8.5 2 hours after eating. I've tagged the amazing @daisy1, who will provide you with valuable info, and I'm sure others will soon add to this. Don't beat yourself up if it's hard at first, but persist, mate. Eat to your meter - it's the way forward to taking control. Paul
 
@oogliwoogli

Hello Steve and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
@oogliwoogli - Hello Steve and Welcome to the Forum.:). It's a good idea to keep a food diary and list the foods that you eat and also your blood sugars before and also 2 hours later. This will allow you to see which foods raise your blood sugars. Make sure you eat enough Proteins, Fats, Veg and non-tropical Fruits in your diet, and drink plenty of water and unsweetened fluids. The Dapagliflozin is a very good diabetic drug, I was on it for a year - I lost weight, it brought down my HBA1C and blood sugars all within range. But, I suffered from repeated Thrush and Burning Urine which is the 2 unpleasant side effects of this drug. I am assuming your GP has pointed this out?
 
Hi I was wondering if you knew how to tag/follow peaple


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Davey you tag people by typing @ followed by the person's name (eg. @Badboydavey1) and when you post it that will be highlighted. To follow, click on the person's wee image and a wee box with info will come up..seelct "follow".. Voila. Paul

ps. when you type the first couple of letters after the @ wait a sec and a wee list of possible appears low on the left and you can select from there.
 
Thanks for the advice. You have been way more helpful than the diabetic nurse and doctor as they just tell me not to eat carbohydrates but if I don't I crave food constantly. I am trying a recipe on here for jollof rice with chicken tomorrow and am really looking forward to it. Can I eat porridge made with milk? I can't stand the water version. The main problem is that mostly it's not food I crave but the taste of food, so bland food does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. I did lose around 3 and a half stone a couple of years back but was basically starving myself by only eating one meal a day which was beans on 2 toast. I still only eat once a day but the doctor told me off yesterday when he found out and told me that I should be eating little and often. I am on benefits and food is a luxury I can ill afford, but I suppose I must try to eat properly.

My readings have been around 10 to 14 on my meter, but rarely below 7 even before eating. Until I read the replies to my post I thought that I was being stupid testing myself without being told to but I can see that it is the only effective way of monitoring and identifying where I go wrong
 
@oogliwoogli - Hi Steve. I know it can be hard living on a Budget. But, you just have to shop around for groceries. A lot of people go to Lidl and Aldi to shop. Try to make meals from scratch and you will find that you can feed yourself for a couple of days. Eggs are not expensive and good for diabetics to eat = Boiled, Poached or Scrambled. Greek Yoghurt you could eat for Breakfast and also to snack on during the day. Don't be afraid to ask questions here on the Forum for any ideas. Someone will answer you. :)
 
You can eat waaaay more than that, and it can taste good too. Maybe need to get shot of the beans and toast though ! Porridge would cause a huge spike with me (it doesn't at all because I hate the stuff), and milk is not a great idea either. Sorry. Listen - before you freak out at what you can't eat...be very sure of this - there's no point in a diet you can't stick too; it will only make you miserable, and life is about quality. So, try stuff but don't beat yourself up if you can't, or if you just give in here and there, or if you decide a coupla days a week to relax..all options. Cutting carbs right down will cut the blood sugar level down, but any reduction is at least helpful. I found it difficult to think I couldn't have sweeties let alone bread. Now, coz my levels are better controlled, I'm having a wee bit of cereal or a croissant now and then. I keep a bad of nice sweets coz if my reading is below 4.2, I have a couple on the excuse that I want to a void hypo! Good news is the lower the level is the more you can risk a wee luxury - but it is rare. We all do what we can...it's all we have. What nice stuff that's real low in carbs can you eat? Steak, pork, lamb, 90% meat sausages, chicken, fish (just try avoid batter n breadcrumbs), cream, avocados, nuts, 90% cocoa chocolate (Lindt), smoked cheese, bacon, dried bacon slices and lots more. Plenty of people cope well with berries and with peppers. I used to hate vegetables until compelled to try them and I find broccoli and cauliflower really tasty! I can cope with a bit of nice salad dressing on lettuce or spinach or any leafy veg. Asparagus wrapped in parma ham is lovely, and it will lower the blood sugar! As will a small amount of whisky or vodka (yuk). Eggs are fine..omelettes are great...chuck some ham in..or mushrooms (very good) and of course a fry up is totally fine! Coffee no problem at all. Anyway, what I am saying is try things and of you can make it work -great..if it's hellish - don't give yourself a hard time..but give it a bash and see. It works if you can manage it..it helps if you manage a bit of it...yeah?
 
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