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Claireb5

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21
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello,

I've just been diagnosed with type 2 and my GP had advised me to follow a low sugar diet. I have an appointment with the practice nurse on Tues to talk more about diet etc but I was wondering if anyone could give me any pointers as to what questions I should be asking?

Thanks
 
Hi Claire

You will get a welcome message from DAISY with useful info.
If you need to lose extra weight then go for it and increase exercise if you can.
Take a look at your diet. Carbohydrate foods can raise blood sugar, something the NHS advice tends to forget/ignore.
Are you on any meds?
If you have anything you need to know please shout.

Cara
 
Thanks Cara.

I'm not on any meds for Diabetes but on levothyroxine and fluoxetine. I have been on Weightwatchers in the past and thought it might be good to try it again. Carbs are my weakness unfortunately so need to find ways to overcome this!
 
Hi Claire and welcome to the forum:)

This is the information that we give to new members, which Cara referred to. I hope you will find this useful and will come back and ask all the questions you may have.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Welcome aboard. The best thing you can do is get yourself a blood glucose meter and test after eating to see what foods affect you.

There are plenty of arguments between people about which is the best diet and how much of this and that you should eat, but realistically you need to test and figure out what it is that affects YOU, we are all different and there is no one single answer. The one thing that we all tend to agree on is that its not just sugar you need to worry about, all carbs will raise blood glucose, but some more so than others, and it is not at all the obvious sugary ones, mashed potato and porridge are terrible for my BG levels for instance, whereass I can have some sugar in coffee without much affect - not that I take sugar in anything much. Others may react differently.
 
Hi Claire and welcome to the forum:)

This is the information that we give to new members, which Cara referred to. I hope you will find this useful and will come back and ask all the questions you may have.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Thank you :)
 
Welcome aboard. The best thing you can do is get yourself a blood glucose meter and test after eating to see what foods affect you.

There are plenty of arguments between people about which is the best diet and how much of this and that you should eat, but realistically you need to test and figure out what it is that affects YOU, we are all different and there is no one single answer. The one thing that we all tend to agree on is that its not just sugar you need to worry about, all carbs will raise blood glucose, but some more so than others, and it is not at all the obvious sugary ones, mashed potato and porridge are terrible for my BG levels for instance, whereass I can have some sugar in coffee without much affect - not that I take sugar in anything much. Others may react differently.
Thank you :)
 
From one newbie to another welcome!! Everyone on here is so friendly and will guide you and offer help! Good luck
 
Thank you. It's good to know that there are others in the same boat. I'm a little nervous about my appointment tomorrow but I'm sure it will be fine :)
 
Oh well please feed back what happens. We love the chance to be nosy.........

Cara
 
Oh well please feed back what happens. We love the chance to be nosy.........

Cara
Well what an eventful day. Saw nurse this morning and she asked for a urine sample. Had real trouble in producing anything which is ironic given how much time I spend in the loo these days! A trace of ketones showed up in the sample so was advised to go to hospital for more tests. Had bloods and more urine tests but doc had no major concerns (woo hoo!) so have been sent home, advised go watch sugar and carb intake and follow up with GP :)
 
Well done to the nurse for mentioning cutting back on carbs.

Have you been given a meter to test?

New Year - new start!

Cara
 
Well done to the nurse for mentioning cutting back on carbs.

Have you been given a meter to test?

New Year - new start!

Cara
Hi Cara,

No, no meter yet. Back to see GP on Monday to see what course if action I've to take. Just glad I never got kept in hospital over New Year. That said, I'm just having a quiet one in front of the tv and the strongest thing I'll be drinking is tea :)

Happy New Year when it comes x
 
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