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petelincoln

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
morning all.....newbie to the forums and this whole type 2 business. Been diagnosed 3 months and on the starter pills, just had a glucose meter sorted and getting to grips with the healthier eating.....anyways, just thought I would say hi :)
 
Hi and welcome to the forum :)
 
Hello Pete and welcome to the forum :)

I hope you will find this information which we give to new members helpful.
Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Pete, welcome.

When you say you are getting to grips with the healthier eating, what do you mean exactly? What were your diagnosis blood sugar levels?
 
Getting to grips as in when the best times are to eat for me are...as I work in security doing 12 hour shifts.....and what the best meals are for me....I am tending to eat a meal (wholemeal sandwiches or a pasta/potato salad) every four hours so I get home to a cooked meal without the shakes!.....I am also snacking on fruit instead of sweets.....and I have just been issued a meter for checking my levels....at the moment just doing once a day at various times
 
If I were you I would check out those meals. Sandwiches, pasta, potatoes and fruit are all foods we need to be very careful with. They will all turn to glucose once inside the system. Test immediately before you eat, then again 2 hours after your first bite. Look at the difference. This is what your food has done to your levels. Ideally, the rise should be not much more than 2mmol/l. This is ideal, but not always possible, However, if it is significantly higher than that there is something in that meal that needs reducing in quantity or avoiding altogether. By doing this, you can learn how to control your carbohydrate portions. Random testing at any old time is meaningless to be honest.

Instead of snacking on fruit, why not try nuts or pieces of cheese?
 
Hi Pete, and welcome.

I only joined this forum a couple of weeks ago, after being diagnosed as T2 in June. it has completely changed my concept of diabetes and the control we need. In my case, ( and most ) diet and vastly reducing your carb intake will greatly help your blood sugar levels. Once you have read and followed the links that Maisie has posted it will all start to become more clear.

Good luck, and in the meantime don't be shy in coming forward :-)
 
Welcome to the forum Pete. I worked 12 hour shifts until I recently retired. I does make it a bit difficult. Listen to what the guys tell you them ask some questions. They saved me for sure.
 
Hello Pete, and welcome! You have come to the right place for advice, information and support!! Ask any questions and have a good read around - nice to see someone almost local!!
 
Getting to grips as in when the best times are to eat for me are...as I work in security doing 12 hour shifts.....and what the best meals are for me....I am tending to eat a meal (wholemeal sandwiches or a pasta/potato salad) every four hours so I get home to a cooked meal without the shakes!.....I am also snacking on fruit instead of sweets.....and I have just been issued a meter for checking my levels....at the moment just doing once a day at various times

Eating sandwiches, potato and pasta is not good for most diabetics. Your diet would put my BS numbers through the roof. And fruit would do the same apart from berries. But use your new meter to check systematically, not just at random times. Test immediately before eating and 2 hours later to see how the food spikes you.
 
Unfortunately when working 12 hour and physically demanding shifts, I need to eat food that fills me up or I get very hypo from the exercise....so after getting advice from my diabetes nurse we agreed on wholemeal bread, high fibre cereals, brown pasta and rice, lots of salad and fruit, fish, lean meat, vegetables, cheeses and nuts.....I am sure if I was home all day or had a sedentary job my diet would be different but right now I have no choice but the diet I currently use........and my meter readings from today have changed to 2 hours before and after a meal.....readings anywhere between 5 and 9 at the moment :-)
 
It's all about balance, was it hypos giving you the shakes ? Or hunger and tiredness ?, 12 hour shifts are a bummer but I'm sure there is no need to be hungry. I would suggest you test when you feel weird ...if your BS is low then a glucose sweet or something similar will get you back on track.

If I was to eat 2 slices of bread it would spike me up big time
 
I am leaving this forum....the advice you guys all give is against what my nurse and diabetes websites say.....too confused so am out of here.....getting the feeling all I am allowed to eat is a carrot!
 
I am leaving this forum....the advice you guys all give is against what my nurse and diabetes websites say.....too confused so am out of here.....getting the feeling all I am allowed to eat is a carrot!
Oh Pete.....nothing could be further from the truth! We were all where you are now in terms of confused etc. Nice guidelines issued by the nhs are out-dated. I went low carb higher fat 18 weeks ago and can assure you it's not all salads and carrots! Breakfast is bacon, egg, mushrooms, I eat lots of meat, cheese, fish, never hungry. Latest hba1c has shown a drop from 61 to 38 in my short 18 weeks, with a 3st 3lbs weight loss. Please take some time to read and absorb, everyone here is in the same boat and proof that if we were just left to the nhs we would not get the improvements we do!
 
Ditto here too, I was under the care of my DN for some months feeling confused and suffering because I was not getting the correct information, truth is Pete, the advice available on here is from real life experiences, not just some photo copied information sheets the dn gives out .

And you're lucky if you was given a monitor and strips, those appear to be a post code lottery whether you get one or not.

Don't despair Pete, have a nosey about and make your own mind up before you decide to bomb out .
 
I am leaving this forum....the advice you guys all give is against what my nurse and diabetes websites say.....too confused so am out of here.....getting the feeling all I am allowed to eat is a carrot!

Don't be too hasty - use your meter and work out for yourself what is good to eat and what isn't.
 
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