And I apologize for having gone missing - since "finishing" the diet almost two weeks ago I have been very busy. Having lost about 50 pounds I started pushing my body to test my ability to metabolize carbs.
The diet might not work for everyone, but it worked for me! Carb - heavy meals are not spiking like anything resembling my pre-diet spikes. Now, 60 - 80g of high GI carbs hit 130 mg/dL tops, before dropping below 100 mg/dL at two hours. I've now transitioned from weight loss/restoring beta cell function to the next phase: combating insulin resistance. I have not smoked in 10 days, and my exercise levels are through the roof (training for a triathlon, even though I have never, ever been athletic previously). I will come back periodocally, mostly too see all of your awesome progress. Based on what I've read, wanted to leave a couple points.
1. DO NOT OVER EXERCISE. Biking 20 miles a day is daft on these few calories - the only reason to exercise is to reduce the amount of lean muscle mass lost, you sure as hell are not going to get into shape on starvation levels of calories.
2. When the urge to cheat hit me, I reminded myself of two words - "Dedication" and "Motivation." Dedicate yourself to restoring your pancreatic function, and remind yourself that diabetes is what is motivating you to lose all this weight - you CAN do this, and you WILLL. Second thoughts have no place here, nor does excessive tinkering. This is a hard diet, just keep it simple, add some light exercise, and drink water nonstop.
Know that you are screwing up your metabolism too. I'm netting 1600 calories per day and not losing any more weight, despite a lot of exercise. It'll take at least another two months to get my metabolism back, so know that the ND diet is just the first step towards correcting your metabolism and shedding all that visceral/organ fat. YOU CAN DO THIS. KEEP IT SIMPLE. STAY DEDICATED, STAY MOTIVATED.
I love all of you that are putting yourselves through this hell in order to bring some normalcy back to your bodies. I can say that even if I hadn't seen the BG results that I did, it still would have been worth all the pain to see my mom crying when she saw how much healthier I looked at Easter compared to the last time she saw me (Christmas).
Stay strong.
Haven't done it yet - I need to ask my doctor if he'll order one (I want it to beWhen we last exchanged in conversation, you were extremely keen to undertake an oral Glucose Tolerance Test. Have you done that yet, and if you have, what were your results?
Haven't done it yet - I need to ask my doctor if he'll order one (I want it to befficial: and by the book if at all possible) but I don' t get to see him for another month.
Which I am kinda okay with - I want to be fully smoke free before the OGTT, and need to have acclimated my body to 150+ grams of carbs daily (and I'm already there). I expect the OGTT will either happen in the beginning of May or near the end of May - beginning if I do it myself, end if I get it from my doctor. End of May is my next lipid panel/A1C as well.
I am burning through strips veerrrryyy quicklyThanks for getting back to me. How often are you monitoring your bloods, now you have moved forward to increase your carbs?
And finally, how has your weight been? Have you seen a slight increase, matching the water retention of the carbs, or something else?
Brilliant. Excellent results and advice.And I apologize for having gone missing - since "finishing" the diet almost two weeks ago I have been very busy. Having lost about 50 pounds I started pushing my body to test my ability to metabolize carbs.
The diet might not work for everyone, but it worked for me! Carb - heavy meals are not spiking like anything resembling my pre-diet spikes. Now, 60 - 80g of high GI carbs hit 130 mg/dL tops, before dropping below 100 mg/dL at two hours. I've now transitioned from weight loss/restoring beta cell function to the next phase: combating insulin resistance. I have not smoked in 10 days, and my exercise levels are through the roof (training for a triathlon, even though I have never, ever been athletic previously). I will come back periodocally, mostly too see all of your awesome progress. Based on what I've read, wanted to leave a couple points.
1. DO NOT OVER EXERCISE. Biking 20 miles a day is daft on these few calories - the only reason to exercise is to reduce the amount of lean muscle mass lost, you sure as hell are not going to get into shape on starvation levels of calories.
2. When the urge to cheat hit me, I reminded myself of two words - "Dedication" and "Motivation." Dedicate yourself to restoring your pancreatic function, and remind yourself that diabetes is what is motivating you to lose all this weight - you CAN do this, and you WILLL. Second thoughts have no place here, nor does excessive tinkering. This is a hard diet, just keep it simple, add some light exercise, and drink water nonstop.
Know that you are screwing up your metabolism too. I'm netting 1600 calories per day and not losing any more weight, despite a lot of exercise. It'll take at least another two months to get my metabolism back, so know that the ND diet is just the first step towards correcting your metabolism and shedding all that visceral/organ fat. YOU CAN DO THIS. KEEP IT SIMPLE. STAY DEDICATED, STAY MOTIVATED.
I love all of you that are putting yourselves through this hell in order to bring some normalcy back to your bodies. I can say that even if I hadn't seen the BG results that I did, it still would have been worth all the pain to see my mom crying when she saw how much healthier I looked at Easter compared to the last time she saw me (Christmas).
Stay strong.
And I apologize for having gone missing - since "finishing" the diet almost two weeks ago I have been very busy. Having lost about 50 pounds I started pushing my body to test my ability to metabolize carbs.
The diet might not work for everyone, but it worked for me! Carb - heavy meals are not spiking like anything resembling my pre-diet spikes. Now, 60 - 80g of high GI carbs hit 130 mg/dL tops, before dropping below 100 mg/dL at two hours. I've now transitioned from weight loss/restoring beta cell function to the next phase: combating insulin resistance. I have not smoked in 10 days, and my exercise levels are through the roof (training for a triathlon, even though I have never, ever been athletic previously). I will come back periodocally, mostly too see all of your awesome progress. Based on what I've read, wanted to leave a couple points.
1. DO NOT OVER EXERCISE. Biking 20 miles a day is daft on these few calories - the only reason to exercise is to reduce the amount of lean muscle mass lost, you sure as hell are not going to get into shape on starvation levels of calories.
2. When the urge to cheat hit me, I reminded myself of two words - "Dedication" and "Motivation." Dedicate yourself to restoring your pancreatic function, and remind yourself that diabetes is what is motivating you to lose all this weight - you CAN do this, and you WILLL. Second thoughts have no place here, nor does excessive tinkering. This is a hard diet, just keep it simple, add some light exercise, and drink water nonstop.
Know that you are screwing up your metabolism too. I'm netting 1600 calories per day and not losing any more weight, despite a lot of exercise. It'll take at least another two months to get my metabolism back, so know that the ND diet is just the first step towards correcting your metabolism and shedding all that visceral/organ fat. YOU CAN DO THIS. KEEP IT SIMPLE. STAY DEDICATED, STAY MOTIVATED.
I love all of you that are putting yourselves through this hell in order to bring some normalcy back to your bodies. I can say that even if I hadn't seen the BG results that I did, it still would have been worth all the pain to see my mom crying when she saw how much healthier I looked at Easter compared to the last time she saw me (Christmas).
Stay strong.
Hi @AndBreatheI worry about you, you know.
For a man, consuming 370 calories in a day, back to back with other very low calorie days, your body must be trying to shut down. I think you're, personally, pushing this VLCD envelope to breaking point. Surely, you should be trying to at least consume the calories the ND suggests. That's brutal enough.
Your HbA1c is already in the non-diabetic range, so striving for that is a non-goal. Striving to be able to eat more carbs is going to be a lottery anyway, in my view. You may already have enough tolerance to do that without this starvation, and if you don't, malnourishing yourself (which I can't help think must be happening on 370 calories, whilst active) isn't going to help with that, except for a tiny window of time as your body potentially recovers.
Please think long and hard about this one.
I'm heading to the fridge now! Thanks for the tip @brettsza it helps to be forewarned about feeling cold as well.@Alpaca have a glass of sparkling water, if you are not feeling cold then add some ice in it too, it helps,
After a few days I started feeling very cold and I still am feeling so dropped all the ice off the menu but I keep a bottle of sparling in the fridge all the time.
Not everyone is same though, even with crisp sunshine yesterday I was wearing a jacket and believe me a thick one too.I'm heading to the fridge now! Thanks for the tip @brettsza it helps to be forewarned about feeling cold as well.
Not everyone is same though, even with crisp sunshine yesterday I was wearing a jacket and believe me a thick one too.
At times I am home and still need a hood on all the time and I used to be in a tshirt only before but I am a bit skinny and getting skinnier now.
3 weeks in and cant wait for 8 weeks to finish and head to nandos for a chicken, one I cooked last night was a bit boring, I like my spices but I cant add them now, not coz ND does not allow it but coz if i dont put oil with the spices, they will burn completely.
@Pipp I remember you asked me where I read no dairy or no chicken, I think I saw it on the pdf doc on the newcastle diet link
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/documents/StudyRecipes.pdf
Dont know if this has been updated after that.
Hi @AndBreathe
I had a few bad days so could not take 800 cals (easter holiday and forgot my shakes home) but I hover around 600 normally, not playing up at all as I think its not something you can really toy with, I did have chicken last night and believe me that was absolutely awesome, I will put some pics later, I also made carrot and leek soup and measured each and everything and calculated that at 200 cals for the whole pot so I had 2 bowls of it which was about 100 cals.
Not everyone is same though, even with crisp sunshine yesterday I was wearing a jacket and believe me a thick one too.
At times I am home and still need a hood on all the time and I used to be in a tshirt only before but I am a bit skinny and getting skinnier now.
3 weeks in and cant wait for 8 weeks to finish and head to nandos for a chicken, one I cooked last night was a bit boring, I like my spices but I cant add them now, not coz ND does not allow it but coz if i dont put oil with the spices, they will burn completely.
Hi @AndBreatheBut, doesn't the latest ND work suggest a spoonful of oil, albeit primarily as a preventative measure against gallstones? Surely that could be deployed with the spices?
Hi @PippRight, so you are following the original study. That worked for me too in September 2011. With that the only food intake is the meal replacement products and veg. What confused me into thinking you were doing the version with real food was your mention of eating eggs.
Some people have since used the model of severe calorie restriction to under 800 a day using real food, and achieved the same result as the original study with meal replacement. (Apparent reversal). I thought that was what you were doing.
The concern I have is that you have mentioned going as low as 370 cals intake. That can't be good. Also, that other, vulnerable, people reading may think this is ok. It really isn't. We are not a pro-anorexia site, after all. Another concern I have is that you say you have a good HbA1c and BMI ( unless I am confusing you with someone else, forgive me and correct me if I am).
Sorry if this sounds like I am trying to dictate how you should manage your nutritional needs. But I mention these concerns because I do not want you to harm yourself.
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