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Just to be clear - The ND came from the study.
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm
This link also contains handouts for your Doctor.
This study was time bound - hence the 56 days. The study was attempting to replicate bariatric surgery. The message is clear;
A crucial point is that individuals have different levels of tolerance of fat within liver and pancreas. Only when a person has more fat than they can cope with does type 2 diabetes develop. In other words, once a person crosses their personal fat threshold, type 2 diabetes develops. Once they successfully lose weight and go below their personal fat threshold, diabetes will disappear.
My point about time frames is two fold. 1 - the ND (coming from the study) is a controlled time frame. and 2. Time frames can create an advantage for people (like me) who need a structure to work within.
Hope this clarifies things - and good luck with reversing T2 - tell us how you get on.
I know I'm being completely pedantic here, but I need to say that, in my view, T2 is a portfolio disease. In other words, it ng label, describing a condition developing a number of ways, due to a number of causes. Whilst I largely agree with your statement about PFTs, I feel a bit concerned about the definitive statement you make; "....Only when a person has more fat than they can cope with does type 2 diabetes develop...."
For those on Professor Taylor's, this mainly held true, but not for everyone. For some people, reducing their body fat will not result in breaching any PFT, as that probably isn't the reason they, personally, became diabetic.
I think the ND gives T2s; particularly those carrying extra poundage, great hope for a positive impact (I'm deliberately not going to use reversal, cure or remission here, or we'll be having a whole different debate), but it won't work for everyone. I'm not suggesting anyone here has given the impression that the ND is the silver bullet solution to T2, but I do think any messaging about the efficacy of the ND (or any other approach) should include the guard that it doesn't achieve the most positive outcome for everyone.
Hope Steve50 that your posts aren't going to disappear after the four days are up. Need regular updates plzDay 52 - fasting blood up to 6. Not very happy about that. But weight down another 0.1 kg. Now weigh 84.3 BMI is now 23.5 (down from 30.7) Total weight loss on the ND 10.1kg. Total weight loss since last September on the 5:2 and ND combined 25.7kg. (or 4 stone 1 pound in imperial) Definitely heading off to Waitrose now to see what 26 x 1kg bags of flour looks like.
Did I mention - 4 days to go!!!!!
Sorry I am such an idiot, I have deleted the link now, and will find another way to make the link available, I feel really bad for linking it should not have done that, could you remove it from your reply too?
Bewildered wrote "My work can be mentally draining but not physical, any advice re how to avoid the grumps in the early stages? I don't want to upset my colleagues, it's a small office!" I would explain to them what you are doing and why and tell them that one of the effects of the lack of food can being grumpy and short tempered so that they know what to expect. When you are ask if they will tell you politely and then force yourself to apologise even if your mood doesn't want you to!
Wow hats off to your gp, mine just dismissed it saying it's useless. He dint even want to read through the pages of instructions you gave to him to read.Update for visit to GP, I love my GP!!!
He has never heard of ND, admitted he switches off when he hears fad diets, so I showed him the letter re ND for GP's. He read it and asked a few questions to confirm my current state of health, asked how I will manage work, and is totally behind me as I start...tomorrow eek. I told him about the forum, and he asked what I will do after the 8 weeks, I think I will probably resume HFLC, got time to think about it.
He's prescribed a meter, strips etc, was going to supply the ones to go with my super dooper free meter but it costs too much, so a new meter for me.
I also asked him for some additional blood tests re my thyroid issues, which he has agreed to.
I am feeling really excited and I want to bottle this feeling and open it from time to time over the next 8 weeks.
Purchased slim fast in 3 for 2 offer, and going to use coconut milk, and maybe try water to mix. Only concern is that using water takes the calorie content very low. Any advice?
Oh and the lady who sold me the slim fast is diabetic so I raved about this forum to her. She's going to take a look.
Gotcha, yup it's a programme, and I seriously can't believe you have only 4 days to go, I think you best enjoy what's left of itP.S.
I'm with others in preferring not to call this a diet. After all a diet implies food of some kind - and that is one thing this program does not genuinely have. While it is more of a programme - I think of it as bariatric surgery - without the cuts!
Agreed. As I am following in your footsteps, but a few weeks behind, your posts have echoed my own experiences and the boosts they give are very welcome and beneficial.Hope Steve50 that your posts aren't going to disappear after the four days are up. Need regular updates plz
I left him with a lot more info too and said I could be his guinea pig.Wow hats off to your gp, mine just dismissed it saying it's useless. He dint even want to read through the pages of instructions you gave to him to read.
Ah! Just located that thread from his signature link. Reading it now.Thanks Guys
Bretzza already has a post ND thread - maybe we should all join that once we are through this.
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