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Newcastle Diet

Winonawoo

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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I wonder if anyone can give me suggestions in what I may be doing wrong please? I'm half way through my second week on the Newcastle diet with slim fast my fasting sugars in the morning are just sitting around the 6.1-6.4 mark and I can't seem to get it any lower at the moment, I've also noted slim fast is high in sugar could this be the problem? I've stopped my sitagliptin and metformin too is this right?
 
I don't know a lot about the Newcastle diet, however I thought it was designed for weightless not for bringing blood glucose levels down, are you on any other medication? Apart from the 2 mentioned, even though I stopped taking metformin because of complications I don't think it's a good idea to stop metformin as it helps most people thigh insulin resistance, I could be off base here but it sounds like you may have been given wrong information


Type 2 diagnosed 24/01/2013.
NovoRapid, Lantus, Victoza, Metformin (sr), Simvistatin
 
Hi I haven't done that diet myself, but I understand that the meal replacement drinks they recommend are Optimax or something like that. Slim fast is not a good substitute as it's full of sugar. Not a diabetic's choice at all. I made the same mistake when I bought Tesco's own meal replacement drink one day out shopping and found I was hungry. I opened it, drank it and only then decided to check out the information. It was something like 28 per cent sugars!!!! It's a minefield, I know, but diabetics have to read lables for sugars and carbs, which turn into sugars.

Ditch the slimfasts is my advise. xx
 
There are a number of threads on the forum about the Newcastle Diet, so might be a good idea to do a search and read some of them.

The shakes used by the researchers were Optifast, but I believe Atkins (and other) shakes have been used by various people with success.

I don't know about just stopping medication without doing it under a doctor's supervision. Did you discuss your plans with your doctor before starting the diet?

Have you lost much weight in the time you've been on the diet? I think the goal is to lose at least 15% of your weight before the full effects of the diet are felt.
 
I didn't use shakes but just cut my calories and replaced starches with raw vegs, berries and nuts. I found the raw veg was slow to break down and also filled me up.
 
If you are willing to bankrupt yourself to lose weight, try Almased. Barely a blip on the BG, but a wince worthy price.
 
I made the same mistake when I bought Tesco's own meal replacement drink one day out shopping and found I was hungry. I opened it, drank it and only then decided to check out the information. It was something like 28 per cent sugars!!!! It's a minefield, I know, but diabetics have to read lables for sugars and carbs, which turn into sugars.

I was also wary initially of the sugar content but I worked out that the carb intake, in terms of weight each meal, is low, so I decided to press ahead and see what happened. In the event, my BG has reduced substantially - it's now usually in the 5s and 4s - and my fasting levels are always < 6, sometimes below 5, and that was unheard of before I began the diet, when they were usually mid-7s or higher.

I settled on the Tesco 'Ultraslim' because of cost (it's only 33p per individual shake) and easy availability, but there are 2 formulations: The Strawberry and Banana and the Mango shakes have fewer carbs/ less sugar than others - 28.2% -v- 46.3% for the other flavours, and those are the 2 formulations I'm using.

Each sachet (i.e. one meal replacement) weighs 28g and contains 104 kcal (370 kcal /100g). It contains 28g x 28.8% = 8g of carbs (agreed, mostly sugar), to which must be added whatever carbs are contained in the liquid you use to mix the shake. I use 200 ml of semi-skimmed milk which I'm told contains 98 kcal, and make it up to whatever level I want with plain water. That gives me 202 kcal in all.

I'm not saying that the lack of adverse effects on BG that I'm seeing would be true for everyone, nor that there might be better replacement shakes out there. However, they seem to be working OK for me and, on that basis, I'm quite happy to stick with them.
 
Good for you Tom, it's great when you find something that "works" for you. I wish you well with it. xx
 
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I wonder if anyone can give me suggestions in what I may be doing wrong please? I'm half way through my second week on the Newcastle diet with slim fast my fasting sugars in the morning are just sitting around the 6.1-6.4 mark and I can't seem to get it any lower at the moment, I've also noted slim fast is high in sugar could this be the problem? I've stopped my sitagliptin and metformin too is this right?
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I wonder if anyone can give me suggestions in what I may be doing wrong please? I'm half way through my second week on the Newcastle diet with slim fast my fasting sugars in the morning are just sitting around the 6.1-6.4 mark and I can't seem to get it any lower at the moment, I've also noted slim fast is high in sugar could this be the problem? I've stopped my sitagliptin and metformin too is this right?
Hi Winonawoo this is my first post I'm on day two of the Ncle diet iv been using the Atkins Shake from Sainsburys 3 for £4 Carbs 1.3g Sugar 0.8g Protein 15g per 330ml my first day my Fasting blood count was 12.4 and this morning 9.2 one of the main reasons for me doing the Ncle diet is not for the weight loss but rid my organs of visceral fat the weight loss is good to
 
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Hi Winonawoo this is my first post I'm on day two of the Ncle diet iv been using the Atkins Shake from Sainsburys 3 for £4 Carbs 1.3g Sugar 0.8g Protein 15g per 330ml my first day my Fasting blood count was 12.4 and this morning 9.2 one of the main reasons for me doing the Ncle diet is not for the weight loss but rid my organs of visceral fat the weight loss is good to
And the shakes are only 160 calories each so you can have 4
 
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