Newly diagnosed and confused

Paul N

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi, I was recnetly admitted to hospital with BS of 22 and ketones of 2.4, but feeling OK. I have now been discharged for over 2 months and I have come back negatve on the GAP test. They are treating me as Type 1, but one of the hospital consultants said he thought I was Type 2. Can that be with such high ketones and BS??. I did have a blood test the week before admittance and my BS was 15, but they didnt test my ketones.. Before admittance, I was losing weight (about 2lbs per week) for about 5 weeks and very thrirsty at night... Any similar experiences please?
Thx
Paul
 
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Ross.Walker

Well-Known Member
Messages
291
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
sprouts, evil things
hello

Early and confusing days, from what you have said above it is not clear what you are. What meds are you on and in what doses? Can you share a bit more of your stats as it may give people more to work on with suggestions/ideas.

I dropped 18KGs in 6 months before getting diagnosed and I am type 2, my levels were 27+ in the mornings.. It gets better as you work out how to eat, drink and live right/

Ask questions, write stuff down,

As always @daisy1 can you share your pearls of wisdom
 

Hawkey

Member
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16
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
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Not a lot
Hi, I was recnetly admitted to hospital with BS of 22 and ketones of 2.4, but feeling OK. I have now been discharged for over 2 months and I have come back negatve on the GAP test. They are treating me as Type 1, but one of the hospital consultants said he thought I was Type 2. Can that be with such high ketones and BS??. I did have a blood test the week before admittance and my BS was 15, but they didnt test my ketones.. Before admittance, I was losing weight (about 2lbs per week) for about 5 weeks and very thrirsty at night... Any similar experiences please?
Thx
Paul
 

Hawkey

Member
Messages
16
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
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Not a lot
Hi Paul N .I too was recently diagnosed with type one .This month actually.I like you had rapid weight loss ,excessive thirst and constant trips to the loo.
Everyone seems to have a different experience at the beginning.I didn’t go to hospital but was put on metformin initially (they thought I was type 2 at first ) and a blood test later given Basaglar( at night ,long lasting insulin ) and take novorapid before meals .I would have thought that your health team should know if you are either type one or two .Have you not been given a blood testing monitor?
I would make an appointment to see your GP or nurse to clarify matters and put your mind at rest as you seem rather lost .Its a lot to take in isn’t it I hope you get the help you deserve very soon .There are a lot of knowledgeable people here ,hope they can help .Good luck .
 

benhippers661

Member
Messages
21
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi I’m newly T1 (9/12/17) and when I first went back to the clinic the doctor treated me as T2 and had doubts about my diagnosis. I was in hospital with a reading of 20.9. I was thirsty and weight loss too
 

Paul N

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi. I was put in lantus once a day and novorapid 3 times before meals. But over the first few weeks the nurses and I could see that I'm still producing insulin myself so I'm now down to just 9 units of lantus per day and no novorapid.

Normal diet of about 180 g carbs per day.

I have my first consultant appt next week and nurses believe I am type 1 in honeymoon. But blood test inconclusive so far.

Thx everyone for help

Paul
 

daisy1

Legend
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
@Paul N

Hello Paul and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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