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Newly diagnosed and overweight!

jengerred

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Hi, I was diagnosed 4 weeks ago and was put straight onto Metformin twice a day with a blood sugar of 16. I am overweight by about 3 stone, and I am struggling with so many different diets to look at, having said that I have lost 3 kg in the 4 weeks, but there is so much information to take in!! I have basically cut out all sweet things, including drinks, potatoes and white bread and I am eating more fruit (I always have plenty of veg) seeds and whole wheat. I find it hard to drink so much water, and I need to get out in the night for the bathroom at least 3 times.
I have not been offered an HBA1c test, should I ask for one? I bought a glucose monitor and I test now and again first thing in the morning before eating anything and it has varied from 6.3 - 7.9.
Any advice from anyone about which diet I should follow, I am leaning towards the low GI but am confused and a little worried. thanks for reading :)
 
Hi, welcome.

You should have had an HbA1c to confirm your diagnosis - maybe check that with your GP.

Well done for getting a meter, this is the key to managing your diabetes. Your fasting readings are good given your previous 16, but you should also test before and 2 hours after meals to check the impact of different foods.

Carb reduction is the key, so you may need to cut out wholemeal bread as well as much as possible, and avoid rice and pasta as well as potatoes. Fruit is also a problem for most diabetics, especially tropical fruit including bananas. Berries are best. Most DNs will advise eating carbs with every meal - this is poor advice for diabetics but we all get it unfortunately.

I do LCHF (www.dietdoctor.com/lchf), other options and opinions exist but it works very well for me.

Good luck and ask whatever questions you want.
 
Thanks for your quick reply, I will certainly look at the LCHF diet that you have sent the link for, you have lost a tremendous amount of weight in the time, well done! I find it hard to cut out all pasta and bread completely, although I am having very little per week compared to what I used to eat! The trouble is that my partner has been ill and he lost a lot of weight and we have been feeding him up so that he can put the weight back on .......... and the 'naughty' food was in the house, say no more!! I was also downing a lot of energy drinks to combat the tiredness and thirst, I was too busy to concentrate on myself, so eventually when I got to the docs it was a relief in a weird way to have a valid reason for how I felt! Now I am determined to get this weight off no matter how long it takes. I don't like a lot of fruit however, mainly berries and apples anyway, is pineapple ok?
I will try the before and after testing, although | am not sure what readings I should be looking for.
 
@jengerred

A good rule of thumb to see if a meal contained too many carbs is that your glucose count 2hours after the meal should be within 2mmol of your corresponding count immediately before the meal.

If your after the meal is more than 2mmol higher then the meal contained too many carbs and you need to adjust the carb content next time you have the meal.

It is a good idea to keep a record of your counts as well as a diary of your meals. Myfittnesspal is a useful way of keeping the latter and tracking calories and carbs.

Once you hit the 2mmol maximum spike target consistently, you should see a reducing trend in your before meal counts as well.

Best of luck and welcome

Pavlos
 
Hi. Often GPs don't do an HBa1C until 3 months after diagnosis to allow any dieting to have an effect. My advice would be not to think of which diet but to think about changing your diet for life to something more suitable for diabetes (or even those without it). This means reducing the carbs, having low-GI ones when you do have them and making up your food intake with proteins, fats and of course veg. Portion size also has to be sensible. Be a little careful with exoitc fruits due to high sugar content. BTW you don't need to drink a lot of water unless you feel thirsty due to sugar still in the urine. This should stop when you are below around 11 mmol
 
Hi, & welcome aboard, I will be diagnosed 3months on the 9th December & found that it's not so much cutting out, it's more cutting down, it's good you cut out sugar which is just what I did, here's a Gi list from low to high of common food stuffs. The more of the low you use the better & keep the high to an absolute minimum. http://www.montignac.com/en/search-for-a-specific-glycemic-index/#tab_low have found this list really useful. Also this page is interesting reading. http://www.montignac.com/en/the-factors-that-modify-glycemic-indexes/
 
Hi, I was diagnosed 4 weeks ago and was put straight onto Metformin twice a day with a blood sugar of 16. I am overweight by about 3 stone, and I am struggling with so many different diets to look at, having said that I have lost 3 kg in the 4 weeks, but there is so much information to take in!! I have basically cut out all sweet things, including drinks, potatoes and white bread and I am eating more fruit (I always have plenty of veg) seeds and whole wheat. I find it hard to drink so much water, and I need to get out in the night for the bathroom at least 3 times.
I have not been offered an HBA1c test, should I ask for one? I bought a glucose monitor and I test now and again first thing in the morning before eating anything and it has varied from 6.3 - 7.9.
Any advice from anyone about which diet I should follow, I am leaning towards the low GI but am confused and a little worried. thanks for reading :)

I lost 4 1/2 stone on low GI/GL, and got my BG back into a normal range, you really have to decide which diet suits you personally, as they all work done correctly.
 
Hello @jengerred and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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