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newly diagnosed, lucky I had a diabetic friend.

lowbank

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi all,
Diagnosed on Thursday with a blood sugar reading of 24.8 at the doctors.
Diabetic nurse was off poorly so left with just a prescription for metformin.
Was feeling funny on Sat morning so went and bought a meter.
Had corn flakes for breakfast. took a reading at 11am 20.8.
contacted my friend who is type 1.
He reccomended an app on apple devices called carbs and cals.
After two hours research, went to tesco and bought some ingrediants to make stuff I can eat.
Readings yesterday went 11am 20.8, 2pm 23.2, 6pm 16.9, 8pm 14.8, 11pm 13.7

Woke up this morning and its 12.8.
The app has helped me design an omlette this morning that was just 4g of carbs.
Ingrediates were 5eggs, two slices of bacon, mushrooms, two tomatoes, and peas. The carbs came from the peas, could have been carbs free. big change from corn flakes which I worked out using the app was 59 g of carbs.

Hopefully my readings will continue to fall today, highly reccomend the app to newbies like me
 
Hi lowbank and welcome to the forum, there are lots of friendly people on here with good advice and support to answer any questions you may have. There s a forum on here called "What Have You Eaten Today " some of us put our daily meals on here and there are some good ideas and menus too. Now you have a meter try some and test 2 hrs after your meal. Have a good look around the site too. Good luck I was diagnosed in Jan this year with a reading of 19.3 now with LCHF diet and support and advice of the people on here I am now in the 4s and 5s mainly. Lost weight to. :)
 
Well done on what you have achieved already and good on your friend for recommended Carbs and Cals and putting you on the right track.
 
Thanks will do.

Welcome to the forum. I'll tag @daisy1 as she can provide you some great information for newbies :) sounds like you are doing the right thing. Many type IIs use LCHF to manage their diabetes, your monitor will help you know how food affects you.

Do ask any questions you need to, in just 4 months I've found this forum invaluable and made many friends!
 
@lowbank

Hello Lowbank and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome,

Yes, Cornflakes and any other breakfast cereal aren't good at all, neither are other major carbs such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and flour. You can crack this by using Carbs & Cals. I bought the book and used it all the time, still do use it now after 2 years. Do you also keep a food diary? It's a good idea to do this, and record your levels alongside. Patterns will emerge that you can learn from.
 
Thanks for all the advise.
Again at 2pm it had climbed to 14.7.
Just had a salad for my lunch which worked out at 12g of carbs.

I am just wondering if I should contact the Docs on monday if I dont get it below 10.

What do you guys think???

Got an appointment on Weds but not sure I should wait that long.

cheers


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I am really surprised that you haven't seen anyone - when I went to see my doctor, he wanted to admit me to hospital for observations because my sugars were at 23.5 - it took some persuading to say I felt OK - so he sent me home with a monitor and strips and told me if it went over 25 I had to report to A&E immediately.

You too have done brilliantly on your own - my doc advised me to come here and become an expert - there is so much info and help available here, its amazing.

oh, and hello and welcome
 
My doctors are normally very good, the nurse who checked my bloods has been diabetic for 30 years. she thought the doctor would send me to hospital and to be fair if it had been my normal doc, i think he would have. The Doctors was fairly new and was flicking through her books on what to do. Diabetic nurse was poorly or I know they would have made sure I saw her before I left.
Anyway been to the allotment and done 3 hours hard graft and its now 15.9.
I have only had 20 g of carbs today and it has gone. from 12.8 to 15.9.

Think I will ring them tomorrow morning.

thank you everyone for your feedback


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Yeah, sounds like you're grabbing the Bull by the horns for sure.

I went to my GP feeling horrendous, bloods came back with a reading of 27.9mmol/L. I was told to pack a bag for 4 days and head to A&E. Albeit I was demonstrating all the symptoms of T1D and turned out to be a T1D.

If you're unsure, take another visit to your GP. Take along a handwritten note of your glucose levels and see what they say. It's always in your best interest.

This is a great forum got advice, but remember. It will only ever be advice and never as good as a medically trained professional.

Cheers,
Grant
 
I am really surprised that you haven't seen anyone - when I went to see my doctor, he wanted to admit me to hospital for observations because my sugars were at 23.5 - it took some persuading to say I felt OK - so he sent me home with a monitor and strips and told me if it went over 25 I had to report to A&E immediately.

You too have done brilliantly on your own - my doc advised me to come here and become an expert - there is so much info and help available here, its amazing.

oh, and hello and welcome
Hi same happened to me I was diagnosed with a reading of 19.3 and also doc wanted to send me to hospital ialso persuaded him not too as it was NEW Year and I came away with a monitor and strips.
 
Hi same happened to me I was diagnosed with a reading of 19.3 and also doc wanted to send me to hospital ialso persuaded him not too as it was NEW Year and I came away with a monitor and strips.

How are you doing now @amgrundy?
 
How are you doing now @amgrundy?
Hi I was diagnosed in Jan this year with a reading of 19.3 now 4 months on with the LCHF diet and the help and support of all the lovely people I am doing fine... Have been on Metformin 500mg 2 daily and have lost weight. Starting weight in Jan 12st 4lbs. Now 11st 2 lbs and feel a lot better for it. I put all my meals on the forum "WHAT HAVE YOU EATEN TODAY good forum good ideas of foods and meals just off to do the school run speak later :)
 
Bloods today have been around 12, so the diets working. Rang the docs and saw the diabetic nurse. she gave me a new monitor and asked me to try Gliclazide.
Just had the first one, see what happens now


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