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Newly Diagnosed Metformin Question

kenl696

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Hello to everyone,

I was Diagnosed this past week with Type 2 and its all very strange life changing to say the least. My bloods have been tested over the past couple of weeks with a low of 11.40 and at the mo a high of 26, So I been told to basically not eat or consume suger with is a ask seeing as much of the food we eat contains hidden sugar and salt but hay ho life change here goes.

My question is I have been given Metformin 500mg Tab to start taking but am a little worried about the side effects well the bathroom side effect, I'm on a pill aday 1st week then 2 pills week after then 3 pills a day week after that.

?Question would taking Imodian or poo relief pills make a differeance to the effect if it is that bad has anyone escuse the wording" blocked them selves up with poo relief tabs" --- does this help and does it effect the workings of Metformin??

Thinking of getting some before taking the Metformin just so can enjoy a kind of ok day to day instead of being attached to the loo

Thanks in advance

Ken
 
Metformin does not effect every one in the same way, I am on the max of 3000 mg of the stuff, I found it makes you have plenty of exhaust gas and some times its always at the wrong time.

Though with the gas you may well need to be near a loo just in case, especially when you have a dicky stomache. I have never used imodium or simular so can't comment on how that will efftect one.
 
Hi Ken and welcome to the forum :)

Metformin must be taken during a meal to reduce side effects. Not before or after. If you still have problems you should ask for Metformin SR - the slow acting version which is better tolerated. I'm afraid I can't answer your question about Imodian though as I don't know it. Other members will know about it and will be able to answer.

Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find helpful. Ask more questions if you need to as there is always someone who can help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. Daisy has quite rightly pointed out that Metformin SR has a much lower problem rate and you should ask for this if you have any issues. I've been on full dose Met SR now for about 7 years with not a days problem but we are all different. Do look at Daisy's diet info. It isn't just sugar that is the issue for all of us but total carbs so do keep them low and low-GI. Don't worry to much about salt and fat; it's the carbs that are the problem area for diabetics. It sounds like you may have a glucose meter but if not do get hold of one as it will guide you on foods that are OK for your blood sugar.
 
Hi Ken, and Welcome!

I have taken Immodium ( Loperamide ) and Buscopan in the past, to alleviate the side effects of Metformin! The thing with Immodium is that it will slow movement through the bowel, and in my case it makes my sugars run higher than normal, possibly due to greater absorption!

Certainly taking metformin during a meal, not before or after, makes a big difference!

Changing to slow release metformin, and ultimately reducing the dosage has now made this much less of a problem for me!

Hope that helps!

:)

Bob
 
Ken,

don't panic :-)

The time to worry about side effects is after you have been taking one tablet for a week.
By that time you will know if you are sensitive, or if you don't have any problems.

Remember as a newly diagnosed everything seems twice as large, complicated, and generally scary as it really is.

I think most people have at most minor side effects from Metformin - took me about a weak for the mild queasiness to go away but apart from that, no problems :-)

Cheers

LGC
 
Hi Sabrina56

Maybe you should start a new post in the welcome area, but welcome aboard anyways!

Look around the forum, ther is loads of advice and information here!

:)

Bob
 
Thanks for the Kind replys I think Bob nailed it - I was wondering if it relief tabs affected sugar and he answered what I was wondering - but thanks to all for your kind words

Ken
 
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