Newly Diagnosed Type 2

Stuart5646

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Hi everyone I thought I would introduce myself.

I'm Stuart I'm 43, and I was diagnosed a week ago, I'm on 500mg metformin SR

It's been a bit of a roller coaster since then trying to figure out what's right and what not to do.

I've been overweight for about 17 years now, and have fluctuated in my efforts to slim down, last Monday sent that message it's the last chance saloon as far as my weight goes, I can only liken my reaction to Ebenezer Scrooge and his encounter with the ghost of Christmas future!

I'll work my way through the forums and hopefully get to grips with what I need for this journey

Regards

Stuart
 

urbanracer

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Welcome to the forums @Stuart5646 ,

Hopefully @daisy1 can provide some useful hints for you. Ask about anything you need help with.
 

Bluetit1802

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Welcome, you have arrived in a good place for all the help you need.

After you have had a good read round and seen Daisy's post, ask any questions you like.
 

daisy1

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@Stuart5646

Hello Stuart and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. If you have any questions just ask and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

paulinderby

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Hi Stuart. I was diagnosed just over a month ago but not got my 1st proper appointment with the diabetic nurse for another 2 weeks. Get to go for my first eye screening week today.

I have tried cutting down on carbs with varying success. My biggest success is reducing portion size and exercising daily. Already feeling better but still concious I am not doing it right.

The thing is I have made an effort without being given the full "do's and don'ts" by medical staff.

Positivity is the way forward !

Paul
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi Stuart. I was diagnosed just over a month ago but not got my 1st proper appointment with the diabetic nurse for another 2 weeks. Get to go for my first eye screening week today.

I have tried cutting down on carbs with varying success. My biggest success is reducing portion size and exercising daily. Already feeling better but still concious I am not doing it right.

The thing is I have made an effort without being given the full "do's and don'ts" by medical staff.

Positivity is the way forward !

Paul

Well done for making a start, but a word of warning. Unless you are lucky with your medical team you either won't be given any "do's and don'ts" or they will be the wrong way round. The do's will most likely be eat carbs with every meal, the "don'ts" will be don't eat fat. The NHS are still sticking to the Eatwell Plate, which may be OK for non-diabetics but is not OK for diabetics. So don't expect too much.

Keep reading round these forums and take advice from fellow diabetics and the latest research.
 

paulinderby

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Thanks for that sound advice. I have already been looking at, and trying cutting carbs and raising fat in take (hence the increase in CV excercise) with a view to tell them that is the way I am going (lchf). I will of course listen to the arguments but at the end of the day they will not be putting me on additional meds above those I have been on for years. I weighed 17.5st about a month ago. By cutting portion size and walking more for excercise that is now down to 17st (half stone lost). So to my enginnering type brain that seems to be working and lets face it no one knows my body better than I do, no one knows its little quirky things better than I do. This may sound gross but since I went back to butter from margerine and cut portion size and increased my exercise there has been a marked improvement in (sorry) the stools I pass. If a medic tries to tell me to do it the way the NHS says I have evidence already and will refer them to the 'Bristol stool chart' (yes it exisits... look it up) which I know they use because my wife uses it in her work for the NHS with incontinent children.

I think the motto is dont let the NHS tell YOU how YOUR body works. Tell them how it works..... but do it honestly!
 
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Liam1955

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@Stuart5646 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum.:). Any questions you have? Just ask, there will always be someone to answer.
 

Stuart5646

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I thought I should check in and let everyone know how I'm getting on and thank you for the support so far.

Since diagnosis I've cut out bread, pasta and refined sugars from sauces etc as much as I can (although I've carried on with baked beans occasionally there's a limit to what you can give up).

I've upped my fish intake and logged everything on my fitness pal and watched the nutrition so that the sugar element is down to about 40g a day.

I've upped my exercise and am now cycling and running 5 and a bit miles every other day.

My weight has dropped 4st 1lb so far.

Next week I'm having a blood test and I'm really hoping that I've made a dent in the original reading of 102.
 

MikeTurin

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This may sound gross but since I went back to butter from margerine
I have a tiny question: for me, and for most Italians I know margarine is seen as 'cheap knock off used to spend less and put something yellowish instead of butter' thing. Why on earth one has to use margarine? It's an english habit?
 
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Tabbyjoolz

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I have a tiny question: for me, and for most Italians I know margarine is seen as 'cheap knock off used to spend less and put something yellowish instead of butter' thing. Why on earth one has to use margarine? It's an english habit?

In 1970s Britain the message was "butter bad", "margarine good" and a whole load of food companies started making margarine and pushed the "margarine good" message like there was no tomorrow. Some of the margarines were pretty vile.