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Newly diagnosed type 2

violet6763

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Hello, I ws diagnosed type 2 last Friday after weeks of feeling either drunk, or hungover (without drinking lol!) My brother and sister have been type 1 insulin dependant since childhood. I am 38, slim, have a relatively healthy diet and am active. I had an operation in November which caused my body to go into shock and the doctor thinks this has triggered a dormant gene and brought out Diabetes. I have been told to take 500mg metaformin each day and have been given a diet sheet. I just wondered if there are side effects when beginning metaformin and how long they last? I feel really, really tired and weak and just want to sleep all the time. I have had blurred vision for weeks and still have it along with headaches (eye check is fine) and I suppose I am after reassurance that these will go soon :) My GGT reading were 8.6 then 14.9. Morning readings are between 8.9 and 9.6.
 
Welcome to the forum Violet, hopefully a type 2 will along shortly to offer some advice.

Nigel
 
Hello Violet and welcome to the forum :) I am also a type 2. I am attaching some information for newly diagnosed diabetics which the Forum Monitors have put together which might be useful for you. You may find that some of this information is slightly different from that which you have been given but this is what we believe is the best way to look after your diabetes. When you can get your levels under control you will probably find a lot of your problems will disappear. First I am including a link to information about Metformin which you might find useful:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=12124

There is also a long thread on Metformin which you might want to plough through! Here is the link:
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15673

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS.

Postby sugarless sue » 02 Oct 2010, 17:49
Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Sue/Ken.
 
Thank You Nigel ad Daisy. I was glad to see I am not the only that has had these side effects. On the bright side I haven't had to run to the loo more than once a day so I shall consider myself lucky. I haven't been given a blood monitor so I will contact my GP and ask for one .
Deborah
 
Hi violet
i too am type 2 (diagnosed 4wk ago) I'm going on to metformin soon. Check out and see if your entitled to a free meter and strips etc. Every part of the country seems to have different rules but its worth looking into ( have a good look around the site ) friendly people and stacks of info. A very warm welcome to you :D
JF
 
If you are 38, slim, and have two siblings with type 1 diabetes, why does your doctor think you have type 2 not type 1? Have you had blood tests to make sure? It doesn't matter too much, the metformin might be suffienct for a while either way (type 1 can progress slowly in adults, the cells die off more slowly than they do in children, it was years for me before I needed insulin), but it might be helpful to know for the future. Your GP might not know it's possible to have type 1 as an adult, and might not know it can progress slowly, and might not know that tablets can treat it at the start - the three GPs I saw before I was diagnosed as type 1 by a consultant didn't know this.

I would have liked to know at the start, so I didn't have years of gradually rising blood sugar and taking tablets that may have helped harm my pancreas (not metformin. They're OK, the ones that make you pancreas work harder and produce more insulin are the ones that might be harmful. After I was diagnosed as type 1 my doctor refused to let me take anything except metformin, even though it was a few days before I could start insulin, the high blood sugar was less harmful than the tablets).
 
Thank you all of you for the advice. HTW - your words were my thoughts exactly. He has told me to come back in two months and see how I am , but that doesn't seem very good to me. My blood count this afternoon was 15.9, yesterday it was 7.6 at the same time - after eating exactly the same! I felt really ill yesterday. I think I have got so used to high!!
 
violet6763 said:
He has told me to come back in two months and see how I am , but that doesn't seem very good to me.
The only benefit that would have would be to save the NHS the money for the test, it's not for the benefit of your health at all, I'd go back and insist on the test personally.
Anyway, you might be fine for 2 months on the tablets, as I said I was OK for years, so waiting 2 months won't tell you anything.
 
I have managed to get hold of a blood monitor. My blood yesterday was 15.9 and today is 5.9 and I feel really dazed! It doesnt help as there are reduncancies being decided at work so I cant take time off to adjust :( Are these counts normal for getting used to the medication?
 
Hi Violet,
You do not say when these readings were taken?

Erratic readings will make you feel bad and add the uncertainty about your employment that is stressing you. Stress will affect your readings.
Perhaps you could tell us when the readings were taken and a summary of the foods you ate yesterday.
Your diagnosis could be wrong with the genetic link to Type 1 and the sooner you know, then the sooner you will get this sorted.

It must be a confusing time for you and I hope it all gets sorted soon.
 
Hello, Both readings were at about three in the afternoon. Both days I had eaten weetabix and banana for breakfast, an orange for a snack, a low fat soup with 2 slices of wholemeal bread and a lowfat yoghurt for lunch. And lots of cups of tea! I am slowly starting to have less 'blurry' moments so I am hoping the tablets are taking effect. Yesterday at half seven (dinner was at five thirty) my reading was 10.9.
My job should be safe if I have no more sick leave which is why I am working through symptoms. I think my colleagues are sympathic - at least they havent said anything to me lol!
Thank you for all your advice. I really appreciate it.
 
hi my name is mandy im new i have type2 diabetes which i dont kno a lot abt as my sugar levels r always high can u help meor give me some advice to get them low please
 
Hi Mandy and welcome to the forum :) Have a good read around and ask as many questions as you like. Earlier on in this thread is some basic information for newly diagnosed diabetics written by the forum monitors. Following the advice in here will help you get your levels down. For ease of reference here is the link for it:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17088#p155405
 
Hi and welcome to both Violet and Mandy

In answer to a question asked about type 1 and type 2....I am not medicaly trained but was informed that you can only be type 1 if either born with diabetes or dx at a young age, even as a young adult....For someone dx as a mature adult you are automatically type 2, even if on insulin...This is my understanding of how it works...

Good luck with getting things under control...It takes time and understanding...Am reletively newly dx and am learning new things every day...

wobblyme :)
 
wobblyme said:
In answer to a question asked about type 1 and type 2....I am not medicaly trained but was informed that you can only be type 1 if either born with diabetes or dx at a young age, even as a young adult....For someone dx as a mature adult you are automatically type 2, even if on insulin...This is my understanding of how it works...
wobblyme :)

You can be diagnosed type 1 if you're older but it happens much less often than being diagnosed as type 2. There is a genetic link to type 1 which is important. Only the doctor can tell by doing blood tests. These tests are on C-peptides and GAD antibodies. These will tell if you have type 1 or 2.
Hope this helps.
 
I guess like everything, there are always exceptions to the rules...Like I said before, I have no medical knowledge, was just sharing what information I was given by more than one nurse on seperate occasions, I apologies If I have misguided anyone...

wobblyme :)
 
wobblyme said:
was just sharing what information I was given by more than one nurse on seperate occasions
Such ignorance by nurses is really worrying. If I was told that by a nurse I'd ask to speak to their boss, who could hopefully arrange for some retraining.
 
Hello. I thought I woukd update you. Since struggling for so long and being told I was poorly controlling my type two even though I ate low carb, my body finally decided enough was enough and at a&e just before last Christmas I was told I should never have been classed type two and was obviously type one and put on insulin. I feel better but getting used to normal blood sugar after being high twenties for so long was awful. Nearly there though x

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