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Newly Diagnosed Type 2

warmstrong

Newbie
Messages
2
Location
Norwich
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all I'm Wayne and I'm a newly diagnosed type 2.
I have been given gliclazide and metformin to start off with along with a meter to test, Had a hbA1c of 68 and have been feeling awful for a while. Have been signed off work so I can get more stabilised and am starting to alter diet etc. to try to help. I teach science (physics and chemistry) so I understand a bit of the science. Just looking for more information so that I can control this rather than it control me!
I am positive and like information - will be looking through the site and forum to build my knowledge.
 
Hello warmstrong. Welcome to the Forum. We are a friendly lot on here and there are quite a lot of knowledgeable people - so don't be afraid to ask questions. Someone will come along and send you some information that all newly diagnosed receive.
 
Hi there Wayne, welcome. You have come to the right place
to get the help you need. Just have a look round the forum
and @daisy1 will be around to help you . Ask anything you
want, as it all will seem rather to much to take in. :)
 
Hi and welcome. You are unlucky to be feeling that unwell even with an Hba1C of 68 but we are all different. Do go for a lower-carb diet which should help with weight loss and blood sugar reduction. If the Metformin is giving you bowel problems do ask for the SR (Slow Release) version.
 
Hello warmstrong,welcome to the forum, the best thing to do is get yourself a bs meter and test am before your feet hit the floor,again before you eat and again 2 hrs after,you will see in the info pack from @daisy1 the best levels, and please take it steady! Gently does it, clive
 
Hi warmstrong.= Wayne, I'd keep an eye on the Gliclazide! It can make you put on weight - when I took it ages ago - and only for over a month I put on a stone in weight, so it got stopped.:)
 
Hi warmstrong.= Wayne, I'd keep an eye on the Gliclazide! It can make you put on weight - when I took it ages ago - and only for over a month I put on a stone in weight, so it got stopped.:)
I think the idea is that I am on that to start with to reduce the blood glucose levels down quite quickly and then come off of it because of the weight gain problems. They were concerned that the Metformin would take a longer time to have the blood glucose lowering effect. I am very overweight so this is one of the issues. I need to make bigger changes to my current eating habits. I was warned about the weight gain complications.
 
Hi! I have posted this elsewhere on the forum so you may have seen it already but it is a clear explanation of how LCHF eating is helpful for T2D

I started with a HbA1c of 64, not much lower than yours, but have never been on meds. Within a short space of time on LCHF my BS levels dropped to 'normal' range. I'm sure you can quickly get your levels down and come off meds. Do use your meter to test and record the effects of different foods. Do ask lots of questions - there are always people ready, willing and able to help!
 
@warmstrong

Hello Wayne and welcome to the forum :) Glad you like information, as here is the basic advice we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Wayne... I am sorry you are feeling unwell... I was diagnosed last november and was tearful embarrassed and scared. I told my GP I was going to reverse my diagnosis. I have not attended Desmond course nor been back to see my GP but will attend my eye appt this week. I have bben on LCHF diet since.... embraced all kinds of meat (had a very fatty Xmas) and my hba1c last week was 51 (down from 56 at diagnosis). I am determined to reverse my diagnosis and I know i can do it. I feel really good... ... and my BP is now low 123/76 mmhg. .. and can be even lower.

My message to you, Wayne, read up on all you can about LCHF starting wt Dietdoctor and ... I am sure you will feel more positive about this awful diagnosis. Good luck x
 
Hi Wayne and welcome to the forum :). I was diagnosed in Sept last year - with an HbA1c of over 120! To the point where there were initially concerns that I may be type 1 (I'm not - Im a good old type 2). I felt awful. But you know, just a few months of following a lower carb diet, I've dropped 2 stones and look and feel better than I have in years. I've chosen to embrace my diagnosis as a wake up call. It really isn't the end of the world as long as you're prepared to make some changes. And as for the diet, it's hard at first giving up some things - but you get used to it. I just try to make sure I have really nice, tasty meals so I don't feel deprived. If anything, I enjoy food more now than I used to!
There's loads of useful stuff here on the forum. I would NOT have managed without it.
Feel free to ask any questions you like - you can guarantee that by asking you will also be helping someone else out who wanted to ask the same thing too :)
 
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