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Newly diagnosed very confused

Tony1956

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Hi, newly diagnosed with type2, in process of deciding which meds are best for me, Metformin caused very bad reaction,
Mmol level of 92 due to damaged Pancreas
Want to cut down my Carbs but by how much, I know we all need some carbs to stay healthy again how much, very confused
Diabetic clinic next week for the first time any advice would be great
 
Hi @Tony1956 ,

Welcome to the forums, I'll ask @daisy1 to provide some guidance that should be helpful to you.

Do you have any idea how many carbs you are eating each day? Are you doing your own blood glucose checks at home?

Ultimately it's up to you to find a level of carb intake that you are happy with and your body can cope with. Forum members range from below 50g per day up to the standard non-diabetic recomendation of 260g. You could start off by keeping a food diary and assessing your intake.

You may need to replace the carbs with something else, we have a lot of people here who are advocates of the Low Carb High Fat diet, agian you will have to decide if you want to go down this route and to what extent.
 
Hi @Tony1956 ,

Welcome to the forums, I'll ask @daisy1 to provide some guidance that should be helpful to you.

Do you have any idea how many carbs you are eating each day? Are you doing your own blood glucose checks at home?

Ultimately it's up to you to find a level of carb intake that you are happy with and your body can cope with. Forum members range from below 50g per day up to the standard non-diabetic recomendation of 260g. You could start off by keeping a food diary and assessing your intake.

You may need to replace the carbs with something else, we have a lot of people here who are advocates of the Low Carb High Fat diet, agian you will have to decide if you want to go down this route and to what extent.
Hi, I have no idea of my carb intake or even how to calculate, I do test and my readings range from 14 to 16 first thing and then they vary from very high 27 down to 12 at different times during day, lowest has been 12 and that's after fasting
 
Hi, newly diagnosed with type2, in process of deciding which meds are best for me, Metformin caused very bad reaction,
Mmol level of 92 due to damaged Pancreas
Want to cut down my Carbs but by how much, I know we all need some carbs to stay healthy again how much, very confused
Diabetic clinic next week for the first time any advice would be great
Hi @Tony1956 what might work for you is to factor in perhaps half of your carb intake from vegetables and nuts as these will help with satiety (this is what I do); again I then have 30-40 g of plain oats with cinnamon, nutmeg, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries.

Whilst not wanting to preempt your appointment I would advise that you cross check any nutritional information with posts to this site due to the current guidelines following the Eatwell plate. Most of us are not medically trained but many type 2's are doing really well on low carb / high fat. Where you mention "damaged pancreas", it is not clear if this is "standard" beta cell loss or some other condition, but as your fasting brings down your readings, it seems that you have some insulin functionality. My 2 tips are try to avoid late dinners / carbs after 18:00 to maximise your evening to morning fast and if you can throw in a walk after all the better.
 
Thanks for that, I have additional problems with nuts and veg, without sounding to dramatic, I suffered necrotizing pancreatitis and all the consequences that went along with that, consultants estimated Ive suffered long term damage to about a third of my pancreas, and I suffered 2x perforations of bowel which in turn meant resection, hence I have problems digesting certain fruits and nuts, sorry if it sounds as if I'm negative but I'm not just need to know which way to go
 
@Tony1956

Hello Tony and welcome to the forum :) Glad to see you have got some useful replies already. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks for that, I have additional problems with nuts and veg, without sounding to dramatic, I suffered necrotizing pancreatitis and all the consequences that went along with that, consultants estimated Ive suffered long term damage to about a third of my pancreas, and I suffered 2x perforations of bowel which in turn meant resection, hence I have problems digesting certain fruits and nuts, sorry if it sounds as if I'm negative but I'm not just need to know which way to go

Hi and welcome Tony.

That sounds like quite an ordeal, and I would suggest that it places you in a quite different situation from the usual type 2 diabetic.

There is a special section of the forum for people who have damaged pancreases (type 3c diabetics) - although I don't know how much of yours is still functioning, or how much needs to be damaged to become a type 3c diabetic. Nevertheless, you may find you have something in common, and their advice may be helpful to you.

This link will take you directly there:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/type-3c-pancreatic-diabetes.73/
 
Thanks for that, I have additional problems with nuts and veg, without sounding to dramatic, I suffered necrotizing pancreatitis and all the consequences that went along with that, consultants estimated Ive suffered long term damage to about a third of my pancreas, and I suffered 2x perforations of bowel which in turn meant resection, hence I have problems digesting certain fruits and nuts, sorry if it sounds as if I'm negative but I'm not just need to know which way to go
I do understand in part, my Mother-In-Law has a similar condition with a perforated bowel and needing to watch her foods. I have encouraged her to see as many specialists as she can, as she struggles with social occasions. Keep up the good work to find your happy medium.
 
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