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KerrieG

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Hi. I was diagnosed as what I assume is type 2 (not that the gp has told me what type it is) just over a week ago. I'm having real trouble accepting it at the moment, I already have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis and now I just think this is one more thing to make me different from people my age...I'm 24.

I do have a question though. Is it normal to feel starving? I'm eating relatively healthy, making a lot of it up as I go along at the moment as I have to wait till 11th June for my diabetes nurse appointment. I just keep feeling really hungry all the time!
 
Don't get yourself down, there are lots of people with problems Kerrie, your not any different from anybody else just depends on how you deal with it, what sort of diet or how are you eating healthy at the moment, I would assume you have Type 2 diabetes did you get and results of the Doctor regarding Blood sugar readings and did you go for any test at Hospital. It is normally quiet on here at weekend I think they all go Partying or something, But I am sure One of the more experienced members will be along with some information for you.
 
KerrieG wrote

Hi. I was diagnosed as what I assume is type 2 (not that the gp has told me what type it is) just over a week ago. I'm having real trouble accepting it at the moment, I already have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis and now I just think this is one more thing to make me different from people my age...I'm 24.

I do have a question though. Is it normal to feel starving? I'm eating relatively healthy, making a lot of it up as I go along at the moment as I have to wait till 11th June for my diabetes nurse appointment. I just keep feeling really hungry all the time!

Welcome, Kerrie !

Firstly, your psoriasis. Before replying I googled low-carbing and psoriasis. Looks as though that works for some.
Also googled coconut oil and psoriasis, and that looks interesting too.
I take coconut oil (in coffee) for its health benefits, but it has many other uses it seems e.g. healing sunburn and conditioning hair.

Your psoriasis may (repeat MAY) be down to too many carbs in your diet, which would explain your hunger.
Carbs tend to have an addictive aspect to them e.g. want a Pringle ? Thanks, a tube will do nicely ! A spoonful of Ben and Jerrys ? Just give me the tub !
And carbs give you a sugar rush, then you feel hungry one to two hours later.

Many here try low-carbing to control their blood sugar, which it does. They also have some degree of weight loss.
AND they tend to feel less hungry (as long as they're not restricting calories) since protein and fat tend to do that : make you feel fuller for longer - win win :D :D

Your diagnosis may just turn out to be the start to a healthier you !

Geoff
 
Thanks for the replies. All my gp said was that my fasting bloods came back at 13.5 and that I needed to avoid sugar like the plague.

My psoriasis doesn't respond to diet usually but being healthier overall might do it some good. I've recently started medication for it so I'm not sure if its that or the diabetes thats making me so tired
 
Yes you do need to avoid sugar, but also large amounts of carbohydrates that you will find in nearly all food stuffs, my fasting bloods came back at 11.1 and I was diagnosed as Type 2 diabetic, the only symptoms I had was being tiered not fall asleep all the time tiered but just like I was running low on batteries most of the time, it was worse in the afternoons, and also I was getting up in middle of night to go loo. So tiered is one of the symptoms, I have gone on low carbs now generally restricting my diet to about 50g a day one reason to lose weight, I need to drop about 2 stone to be at my fighting weight, and another to control blood sugar which it is, my average readings are around the 5.1mmol/L now, I do 30min every night on treadmill and I walk a fair bit in work too, as for your psoriasis I don't know if the diet would help it I would check it out. I suffer from eczema myself it tends to come and go, more so with stress that can be a real pain at times. I had an Uncle who had psoriasis really bad and boy did he used to suffer with it, it was all over his body, It can be a horrible condition so you have my sympathy and I hope yours is not so bad. I find with the low carb diet that it has a load of choice there are lots of recipes on this site, and you are never hungry, you supplement protein and fats for sugar, like for a snack I will have some cheese or Ham, if I fancy something sweet I will have some strawberry's and Blueberry's with Greek yoghurt and full fat cream. You will find lots of help and information on this forum and don't be afraid to ask questions, someone will always help you out.
 
Hi Kerrie and welcome to the forum :)
You have already had some answers to your questions and here is the information we give to new members which I think will help to fill in the gaps. Carry on asking questions as there is always someone who can help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hello Kerry and welcome to the forum.

Like others are saying don't get too down as everyone found it difficult to accept at first but the honest answer is denying it is the worst thing you can do. I was diagnosed in December last year and using the advice I found on this site I got my blood sugar levels back to normal within around a couple of months or so and I have also normalised my cholesterol levels and blood pressure as well. I have now lost over 3 stone in weight too. My doctor is very pleased how I am getting on and has advised me to keep doing what I have been doing since it's obviously working really well.

Diet wise its really easy. Just drastically cut down or better cut out all things with plain sugar, so biscuits, cakes, sugar in tea and coffee, pure fruit juices, non diet versions of soft drinks. Next and really importantly try halving starchy foods like rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and any other flour based products. Replace what's now missing with extra meat, fish, eggs, cheese and especially vegetables. Vegetables that grow above ground are best although most of us find carrots fine. Things like yoghurt are fine as is a small amount of fresh fruit. I find the ones that end in "berry" are the best. If you don't mind artificial sweeteners things like Diet Coke are fine to drink. On the starchy foods that are left swap try brown basmati rice instead of white and brown or tri-colour pasta. The bread that most recommend is actually Bergen soya bread but some do ok with wholemeal as well.

The above diet is close to one you would be one recommended to try by the Swedish Health service. It was introduced in that country last year and the American health service and several other countries health services recommend something very similar for Type 2 diabetics. In the UK the diet guidelines are now over 30 years old and are only gradually being updated. As the UK is lagging behind you may find what I and other forum members recommend will be different to what your are told is a good diet for you follow.

Did your doctore mention giving you a meter and strips to measure your own blood sugars?. Some do and some don't. It's a bit of a post code lottery and we find some progressive surgeries are pro testing and others anti. I'll warn you the anti ones can sometimes be very vocally anti!

The reason testing is important is you should try and keep your blood sugars below 8ish two hours after eating any meal. Above the 8 value is where the dangers of complications do begin to occur according to diabetic experts. So if you can't test how will you now if what you are eating is keeping you safe? The problem is every diabetic is different so my earlier advice to halve starchy foods is just a rough guide. You may find you need to eat less than half (like me) or that you can eat more than half like others.

As you get into it all and read around the forum you may see people talking about carb counting. If you want to understand what that is just ask. It is a powerful weapon that a diabetic can use to control their condition and one that many of us use to great effect.

Good luck and keep asking questions.

PS Here's two good links about what's good to eat.

First is the lady doctor who's low carb / low GI recommendations seem to form the basis of what's recommended in Sweden

http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in

Second is a good beginners guide to low carb regimes that are excellent for reducing blood sugar levels and losing weight.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 
Thanks again for all the advice!

I've already started to eat wholemeal things instead of white. Trying to eat more fruit and veg is hard because I still live at home and they don't have the best diets, but I'm buying most of my own foods now anyways.

The Dr hasn't really told me much, just that the diabetes nurse will go through it all with me when I see her. I'm going to ask about a blood monitor because my gramp is type 2 and he's always had one, which I know helps him.

I'm craving chocolate at the moment and its driving me mad! Plus its my birthday in 12 days and I want cake!
 
H there and welcome to this valuable forum.I have a sister n law who has terrble psoriasis, which she has only managed to control with going on a sunbed (which has other health risks) and with the fish treatment (where you put your legs and feet in a tank of fishes and they eat the dead skin ewww)She has it particularly bad on her legs and it gets really bad and itchy with stress.She also has Type 1 diabetes since her early 20s. I did read that Psoriasis is an Autoimmune condition as is Type 1 diabetes.Maybe they will run some more tests to see what type you are, as they are with me,they have taken their time I must say.Perhaps its worth you phoning the doc or nurse see if you can have a meter,would give you a better idea what you levels are.Let us know what happens at your nurses appointment and take care x
 
I've had a few courses of light treatment but its stopped being so effective for me now. That's why I started the medication for it...its not the nicest of meds to be on but so far its working :)

I haven't actually been told what type am I but I'm just assuming its type 2 for now. I see the nurse on the 11th of June so its only a week to wait anyways
 
Hi. You will get used to eating less as you reduce your carbs and the carb hit that we all have (had) will fade. If you are put onto Metformin that will also help reduce your appetite. You don't have to give up chocolate; just get used to having high % Dark Chocolate e.g. Green & Blacks 85% or one of the various other brands. The carb content is very low.
 
Oh good...I love dark chocolate!

I seem to be really tired today. Had nearly 10 hours sleep last night, then a nap at 5 for an hour and I'm feeling wiped out again!
 
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