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john val

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hi my name is john,i was diagnosed yesterday,after 3 months of prick tests which didnt indicate a problem ,reading 6.9
i had a blood test which showed a reading of 57,i dont know the relevance of any of these readings,but why would the 2 tests
differ so much. I am completely in the dark so any help and advice would be welcome, I cant start treatment until i have a
confirmation blood test.
thanks
John
 

daisy1

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Hi John and welcome to the forum :)

The method of measuring average blood sugars (HbA1c test) has changed. The old system was in percentage which is your 6.9% measurement. This equates to 52 mmol/mol so your second measurement of 57 is a bit higher.

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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I hesitate to question daisy1 since she knows what she is talking about but since you say your first tests were prick tests then they may have been instantaneous readings and if they were then 6.9 is nothing to worry about.

The blood test was probably an Hba1c (an average of the last three months) which, as daisy1 said is now measured in different units and 57 would diagnose you as diabetic. Anything above 48 would do so.
 

john val

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thanks for the feedback,i was totally in the dark about everything, i didnt even know my GP had sent a blood sample off
to test for diabetes i was told it was liver and kidney function test.he was concerned that my prick tests were clear but the
blood test was so high as he had told other patients with similar prick test results that they were ok,im glad i kept pestering
them. Any info and advice would be gratefully received.
john
 

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have a look arround the forum and look at what others have asked and some of the stories they have to tell. it will help you identify with the problems others are having and how they relate to you. it will even help you to realise some of the questions you have not already thought of and be ready when they turn up
 

pftsheryl

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Hi, my name is Sheryl, I am newly diagnosed yesterday , after 3 blood tests to check, can't remember any numbers but doctor hasn't put me on medication, he is going to monitor me for three months. First appointment with diabetic nurse is in two weeks so not sure where to start . I am tired at 12 midday and keep going dizzy.


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whompa73

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pftsheryl said:
Hi, my name is Sheryl, I am newly diagnosed yesterday , after 3 blood tests to check, can't remember any numbers but doctor hasn't put me on medication, he is going to monitor me for three months. First appointment with diabetic nurse is in two weeks so not sure where to start . I am tired at 12 midday and keep going dizzy.


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Surgest buying a meter even if just a cheap one off ebay . It will give a better idea of what is going on . And enable people on here to geve advice better. You are definatly in the right place though
 

john val

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have recently been diagnosed and have since spent a long time on this site which i am finding very informative. have not started treatment
yet but will be able to ask the right questions before I do,Reading about bread it seems it can be a problem, as I love proper bread
I am sure someone will be able to provide me with an appropriate recipe.
 

Netty70

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Hi
Best bread to have is granary or burgen they are both really tasty
There are more but I can only comment on the two above as they are the ones I eat
Hope this helps


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john val

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thanks for that netty70,got a burgen today from co-op,you are right it is tasty,first bread for 5 days : :D